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Unconstitutional Child Support, Jamaican Ex-wife, Corrupt Cops & Protecting kids| Episode 10| Ft Fox Pena
On this wild ride of an episode, we're joined by Fox Pena, a food critic wizard and real estate mogul, who shares his own salsa of success and struggle with five kids. Together, we wade through the muddy waters of child support, the family court rollercoaster, and the relentless pursuit of shaping our children's futures in an era where TikTok rules and hip hop's messages are ever-evolving.
Raising a tribe of four daughters and a son, we navigate the cultural currents from the bustling streets of Washington Heights to the sun-kissed coast of California, all while keeping an eye on the prize: their dreams. The heartfelt discussions dive deep into fatherhood challenges and triumphs, revealing the bittersweet joy of parenting in today's social media-infused reality and the importance of guiding our little ones as they carve out their identities.
The entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well in the Latino community, and this episode serves as a testament to that fiery passion. Wrapping things up, we give a nod to the inspiring stories of Latino entrepreneurs. Join us as we share our insights, laughter, and the occasional tear, all through the lens of fathers who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty in the quest for a legacy that outshines the dazzling lights of any city skyline.
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Child support is 100% unconstitutional. It's illegal, it is voluntary, but you really got to know the law. So what happened with me with child support is simply that I could not believe it was happening. Whatever compelled me to pick it up? Because I called three, four times. It was definitely an African-American woman police and she was like yeah, why don't you try putting something a little extra on that child support? It's Christmas time, she said. I moved across the country to put this motherfucker in jail. If he got 50,000 on him, I don't want it, I want him in jail. So the judge said what you want to do? I said fuck it, then Lock me up, fuck outta here. Wow, worst mistake I ever made in my motherfucking life.
Speaker 2:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Paris, uncut. I'm your host, handsome Johnny Emilio Contreras, here with these two beautiful young ladies.
Speaker 3:Ooh young today.
Speaker 2:I threw young. I threw young.
Speaker 3:Who are you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys got names.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have a name. Thank you, Hi everyone. My name is Jasmine Jazz Jazzy's Joy. This is my friend. I'm just her friend. Right now, it's Jax, and that's all you're ever going to get.
Speaker 2:Yo, I like your hat Yo thanks. What does it stand for?
Speaker 3:So remember that one time at band camp. I was like first of all, shut the fuck up and mind your business. So, as always, shut the fuck up and mind your business. She's the mean mom. I'm not the mean mom, I'm just a mean person, period.
Speaker 2:Actually, yeah, I think it's the reverse You're actually a nice mom.
Speaker 3:I'm a great mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I knew you. I shouldn't have to say that. I know you said it Angry, right Angry, but I'm not an angry mom, not all your kids Not all your kids.
Speaker 1:Everybody else in the world could get it.
Speaker 3:Anyway, enough about me. We have a special guest.
Speaker 2:Yes, we have somebody that, to me personally, is one of the greatest people I've ever met. Man, this is one of my mentors. Yo listen, it's one of my mentors, one of my OGs, more like a brother. When I'm going through shit, I hit you up. I hit you up with crazy shit a couple of weeks ago. Here we are, just life getting nuts. There's a man right here, puerto Rican, entrepreneur over 25 years in the restaurant and food franchise and industry Over 25 years in the real estate industry, hence how I met him. Held my hand pretty much pause when first Flick 6 and Flip was with Yo, it's true.
Speaker 1:Got some pause. You still do pause out there. It's mandatory. It's mandatory. It's bacon and cheese. Oh Lord, bacon and cheese, it's mandatory.
Speaker 2:Yo, this man been doing real estate in every single coast so he knows pause is still mandatory all across the United States, bro.
Speaker 3:So you pause people over in Cali.
Speaker 1:No doubt they be like yeah, that's that New York shit homie, I fuck with you man, I fuck with you, Damn man.
Speaker 2:There's a lot more man. He's a father of five.
Speaker 3:Wow, you beat me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's a mother of four.
Speaker 3:Shut up. No, no, no, no, no. That's what.
Speaker 1:I said too Shut up, it's close. I said close, it was it.
Speaker 3:Wait out there. I got to go make an appointment. Do that? Shut up what?
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Speaker 2:Nah man, but most recently, which you just spoke on. Right now, he's become the number one food blogger in all of Chicago land. Food with foxy, though, which took off and blew through the roof. Fox Payne man, welcome to the show. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Before I start talking shit and I'm going to talk a lot of shit I want to say I want to commend y'all on this podcast, the success of it, the idea of it. This discussion is very important in your age demographic, but more importantly, it's important in our households, right? Yeah, Because in our households, what do we get? We get critique from our parents about how we parent in and then when we bark back, they be like I did the best, I could. You be like damn, all I said was. All I said was I'm trying to. So you know what I mean. This is a very, very important and again, I'm going to just keep it real, because I definitely keep it real. I'm the one who pressed Johnny to be on here. Oh, y'all told my parents I said I got to come through. So, yeah, this is important and I congratulate y'all. Real shit, Thank you.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, I'm kind of stunned.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so Chicago. Let me just tell you, for those that don't know me, I'm born and raised in New York, washington Heights. Baby, back when Puerto Ricans were in style, dominicans holding it down. Now we finished out, damn, if we finished. We finished in New York. We got nothing. We don't even got bodegas, no more.
Speaker 2:Like you also got the.
Speaker 1:Bronx? Not really bro. No, we's on Most of us became firemen and policemen. We moved out. Yeah, the Bronx is over, but I just want to say that Chicago, man, chicago has really embraced me. Chicago did more for me in 18 months than New York did in 30 years, wow. So I definitely wrapped the shot. And everybody back at the crib, you know what I mean? Shout out to y'all man, we're doing some fly shit out there in Chicago, damn you just came to a New York podcast and shout on us.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Chicago, son. That's how it goes. Listen. Even Jesus didn't get no love in his hometown.
Speaker 2:Jesus had to slide, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:It's the shot for me we starting off strong.
Speaker 2:Yo. So let's get to it, man, let's go. Five kids Give us, give me an eight range, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be serious for a minute. So please is 25 to 10. Oh, my oldest is 25, 23, 2016. And then the little homie is 10 years old.
Speaker 2:And the first four, or what?
Speaker 1:Girls. See, the thing is, I was chasing.
Speaker 3:My mom boy.
Speaker 1:Right, you know what? That's what my homies say. Can I curse on this? Fuck my homies and listen that's some bullshit, but it was common. We know that, I just don't want to admit. Okay, all right, so it's true. Now the irony is that I was raised by four women.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, tell me, my mother, my grandmother, my grandmother sister, my great aunt and my sister who got 10 years on me. But that's what my household was like. And then I turned around and have four girls. So it's crazy, but you know a lot of people have All right. So I raised my kids on the West Coast where Mormonism is more prevalent Right. So I would go out and people would be like God damn, bro, you Mormon. And I'm like that's so fucking offensive bro, like choke on something, you on bullshit. Other motherfuckers like I'd be out at a restaurant, whatever my kids. Because I always took my kids to the flyer shit from early because I want to know ain't no motherfucker gonna come around and take you to a motherfucking Chick-fil-A and impress you.
Speaker 2:Four girls.
Speaker 1:We balling from birth, so they always got compliments on how well behaved they were, whatever. But then every now and then, motherfucker will come by and be like what's wrong with you, man? You don't know how to make boys. How defensive I'll be wanting to fight. But anyway. So I was chasing the boy Right. So what I did is I switched out the wombs. See the womb there we go Fucking me up. I switched the womb out.
Speaker 2:Yo the first womb gave you four girls.
Speaker 1:Four girls. So now they say it's the man. I did research. I did research. There is some acid concoctions in there that could sway the sex. Now is it 100% guaranteed? Hell, no, but we got to run with that, we got to place blame on others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yo pH balance.
Speaker 3:So what did you do? I switched the womb out, got a different one. Lady, I have four boys, so what's?
Speaker 2:the womb.
Speaker 3:I'm the problem. Maybe you need a new man, Bro. I'm not telling you. This is what I'm trying to tell you. No, I'm not Listen.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:No sorry, no, I'm just joking.
Speaker 2:She got from 19 to three 19.
Speaker 3:Okay so same type of one, he's turned four, four, my bad Four boys. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, I was married 26 years. I ain't got a whole lot of baby mama shit. 26 years with the same woman, from 14 years old up, got divorced. I knew my window was closing because I'm getting divorced. Now I'm pushing 40-ish, right, and I know the boy is coming, because I was told by, like the spiritual world, right, I know he's coming and they told me You're going to get the boy, but it's not going to be with her. And sometimes they used to say it in front of my wife, which was wild, uncomfortable, right, and they would tell me in Spanish, but she was Jamaican, but she spoke Spanish. So that didn't help, didn't fucking help.
Speaker 1:So I say to myself okay, I'm going to roll the dice, we're going to do a one shot deal. That is one shot deal. We're going to go to Puerto Rico. If we conceive the baby, we good. If we don't, we clap hands and we, we good, boom, one shot. So now I'm waiting, I'm like man, this sonogram, this sonogram man. I'm looking up at that screen and when they took the thing and they cracked the little legs, I'll see the nudge drop. She, I was like. They're like oh you look like my husband on Sunday with football.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah, I've been waiting 40 years for this, Anyway that's risky as fuck.
Speaker 3:I was chasing the boy. Oh, is he a junior.
Speaker 1:No, no, his name is Grayson. Shout out Grayson. Very handsome basketball star. I rock with him.
Speaker 2:Yo, we seen him.
Speaker 1:Also sturdy King.
Speaker 2:I was saying I was. Yo, he's doing the dancing, I seem to do a dancing. I see him in your Doritos commercial.
Speaker 3:Oh, I saw that.
Speaker 2:Which to me was like, oh shit, he's finally bringing the kids into the. What led to that? Like you being like y'all, let me bring them into this world.
Speaker 1:Now what led to it is is is is is just me being transparent, like there is an audience for people who want to know about the snacks. We're all in Walmart, we all have kids, but at my age and size I really can't be eating them snacks on camera. It does not fucking work with the oil. Don't translate. They be like you gonna get your feet cut off my feet, fuck you.
Speaker 3:The comments will never let grow. They ugly out there Like I really want my feet cut off over Doritos.
Speaker 1:Who raised you? Motherfuckers, Like like, think about your parents. Like you a grown man. They raised you to get on someone's page and wish their feet are cut off. You're not a success.
Speaker 2:Yo, bro, no one's proud of you. I think about that shit every time I see these wild comments. I'm like yo, you guys are really brave behind these phone screens.
Speaker 1:Wow, it's great, it's her.
Speaker 2:Especially, they go after us too. They never come after her, but us we get like the word why don't you go eat a donut?
Speaker 3:Exactly I was like I love donuts.
Speaker 2:They be acting like I got a big forehead.
Speaker 3:Both of you shut up. The other day I was called a misogynist.
Speaker 2:Oh, finally I went listen I went from her freaking account Get out of here.
Speaker 3:I went toe to toe with him. I was like, nah, you're not about to win this argument.
Speaker 2:Wait, that was on TikTok.
Speaker 3:On TikTok Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Somebody hit him up. What was it? They said uh, you simp, go hug your mother. Somebody said go hug your mother. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm getting involved in the comments.
Speaker 3:You were like oh you still suck on your mother's tip as 40 years old, go hug your mother and then me and him was going at it about it. I told him he hates himself. They do they do I told him he hates himself. And that's what. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 1:Again back to monetization. I just have to ignore it. I used to go heavy and I would get banned for months. He'll tell you yeah, like they will black me out for six months, wow, and your paper stops. I'm telling you it stops, like when you're used to getting let's just be realistic like 20, 30,000 spins per video, right, and that shit goes to 700 for six months and then they take away your ability to go live. So I've grown thick skin because you got to, yeah, you got to weigh it out. But to your question how do I deal with it? In the beginning, you know. And again, hands off, no, I just tell people I'll give you my address, I'll knock your motherfucking teeth out your mouth because you straight pussy.
Speaker 1:Like how you on another man's page leaving comments and you local, like you could pull up and get it. But that's ridiculous, see, they draw you into their ugly little world. You know what I mean. Like if you're a grown man, if you're a young kid and you a troller, whatever right, troll on. But when you're in your 30s, 40s, right, and you're on another man's page, you got no business. Like you literally in your mother's basement telling her don't touch my orange juice, mom Put your name.
Speaker 2:Mommy, don't talk. I'm sending voice notes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like that's really what you're doing. How do I know? Like because it's an impossibility.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's literally an impossibility that you have time to comment something so negative and vile on another grown man's page. It's crazy, you know, and I think it's laced in homosexuality. You know what I'm saying. I think a lot of but not open, healthy homosexual relationships is men who are dealing with issues. You know what I'm saying and I think it's based in that. Now I close doors.
Speaker 3:Um, yes, so, and this is why I said so, his fight with me was why do we need? Why do you feel like we need men, Right? Why do we? Why do we need men to raise men? Because I'm a successful man and I didn't need a man. So I, in turn, at the end, said so, you saying that this world doesn't need you. You hate yourself, Factory. You hate yourself.
Speaker 2:See, it's the heifer seat. That is the one that makes me proud, man. Yeah, but she gets in that mode, Not yo. You always make me proud.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, he was and I, and I didn't want to go there with him. Oh, he was of the community.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, so that just opens up a deeper conversation, and at the end of the
Speaker 3:day, right, you go on his page.
Speaker 1:And I was.
Speaker 3:That was the first thing you see.
Speaker 1:I don't know. At the end of the day, and this, this philosophy, comes from their community. Initially, it's about tolerance. So if you have an opinion and you're representing a community that initially was about tolerance, because now it's about you better, right, it was started with tolerance, then acceptance, now you better. It's a. It's a contradiction. So I think you're right. I think he's dealing with issues because he's not. He's not representing even his own personal philosophy, he's not representing in a healthy way and willing to open up discussion, because that's what these podcasts are about. Right, yeah, you, you incite thought, you open discussion. And if, because right now, at this level, yaka still interact with these heathens it's not going to always be that way Wants to shit. Pop, pop, pop is like it's over. Who said what? I don't know, I'm counting money. Hang up, I'm here, I'm here. Look, click, don't go, no more.
Speaker 2:Done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know how I go.
Speaker 2:How you deal with your kids and the whole social media. They growing up on this shit, so they're dealing with that. It's a very different world for them than us and because I think, see how you say yo pull up, I think they're more accustomed to it in a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, so I'm going to keep it. A thousand Social media isn't a big as deal as the video games. That's where you're susceptible. You have other kids from animal households.
Speaker 1:They talk crazy I don't buy my tongue right, and you don't know the age of the kids, no, right. And you hear this shit going on and you're like what? So that's where the real danger is. Keep it real. So how do I deal with my kids? Social media when my girls were growing up, they were kind of on the cusp of it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was just coming out. They were in, like you know, tennis. It wasn't a big deal. I got through it easy. My son, it's the goddamn TikTok hip hop. Yeah, because the TikTok hip hop is a bunch of 13 year olds, a lot of them from the UK. They got the pushaiste joints, the drill shit.
Speaker 1:They're rapping about murder, murder, murder. It's rappers I've never heard of. But the following in the spins is crazy yeah, 13, 20 million per video. And so a lot of my parenting stems from him watching the shit he's not supposed to watch. So we'll discuss it, right, because I'll be hypocritical to say, okay, you can't listen to hip hop. I could, because he's not from the hood, he goes to private school. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:We conquered that. We conquered that poverty phase, right, but at the same time hip hop changed my life. So for me to just take it from, I think it's hypocritical although you know I don't see the positive messages we grew up with, you know, prior to them taking hip hop from me, the Karris ones, the public enemies, ex clan, brand newbie and all that energy. We don't have it, but I still find that there's expression in it. I still find that he can learn how to express himself through hip hop. So a lot of parenting comes from that. Like, look, you know this is bullshit, you know this is not real, you know this, you know that. But it's the video games where, where it's challenging.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I feel like, because anybody can hide behind that, behind that controller.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's something that that she gets Wow.
Speaker 3:Yo with my kids, like my 14 year old. One day I'm listening to him. I think he was on the phone and playing the video game and I hear some guy and he sounds that's not a kid.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 3:And I was like a second who are you talking to? Oh, that's, I don't give a shit. Get off the phone. You should not be talking to no grown ass man. And a grown ass man should be in your business. Hang up the phone right now. And I said it loud, like I don't give a fuck who's on the other line. Absolutely not, because that's. That doesn't only start with little girls, right, my kids are. Yeah, I got to protect them, just like everybody you know you got to protect your girls. I have to protect my boys, because people are not thinking that way. No, no, no, get off the phone right now. Yeah, that was that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you something else about protecting boys, right? So when we grew up, hollywood has such a big influence on us and Hollywood is the biggest flip flopper, and when I say Hollywood basically means any media that's programming us, right? So when we were kids, any movie you watched, any sitcom you watched, homosexuality was frowned upon and it was clowned. They clowned you. Right, you had a gay character, whatever you were the butt of every joke. You know Archie Bunker style, yeah, saying that type of vibe. Right Now, these kids grow up where all the lines are blurred. So if you have someone on a video game older, that's sending any kind of message to your kid. They don't know what we know or what we thought we knew, because we were programmed as well. Right, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You said that in Death of God in terms of. So here's a documentary called Death of God on YouTube. Everybody go check it out where you were like even the gangsters, the mafia were taught how to be the mafia by watching good fellas Hollywood, by watching Godfather, yeah.
Speaker 1:Godfather. That's the fact, Right, that's the fact. The mafia was so fucking furious after Godfather because the street guys started acting like the guy in the movie and they're like we're supposed to be on the low. So everything from when you open presents on Christmas, the reaction you give you learn that from watching other people. No one's going to react to opening a gift if you've never seen it before. You're going to open and be like, okay, you see what I'm saying? When we have tragedy, the way we react, we're reenacting what we saw. So it's the same thing with these kids. So if you're watching images where the lines of sexuality are blurred and then you hear something sexual from the same sex, you're not going to have the same reaction we did when we were kids. So we were kids. We're like, oh, this shit is funny. Right Now it's like, well, I don't really know, it was wilder than not.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. You bring that up. We were just talking, jackie and I. I posted something of this trans woman with what's his name Torrey, I think it's Torrey, yeah, whatever. And she was like I don't feel the need to let anybody know what I am on the first or second day. And he was like for real, I don't really feel this way because that's kind of like a violation to the noise. It's too burdensome, right.
Speaker 2:And then one of my friends commented she's like you know, we have to take consideration that our kids are learning something way different than us. So if that ends up happening, whereas you said back in the day, if I'm on a date with a dude and I don't know who's a dude, I automatically know whoa. This ain't it, bro, like it's not for me, but not because it's wrong, because it's not for me. And she's like.
Speaker 2:My son is growing up in a world where the lines are blurred, so if that happens to him, somebody does not warn him prior, his mind can say oh, am I gay? Because I don't know the difference. I'm not being told that it's okay to be an individual. I'm being told yo, everything is one. So that to me is like a way we were having the convo. It's like it's it's touchy ground because you have to be on like this walking with eggshell shit for no reason, because yo, at the end of the day, if you're something you're not, yo I'm not with it. It's not the old days where yo you're gonna get beat up or some stupid shit but they make you think yo if you say anything different. Now, all of a sudden, I'm teaching my kid bigotry.
Speaker 1:It's tough and I think that, well, the thing is the media, and the media is now social media is controlled. Not enough. Women are stepping up, right and what?
Speaker 2:I mean by that?
Speaker 1:remind me that the ending of death of God is this conversation right here. But not enough. Women are stepping up and glorifying the total right Because when people say, oh well, it's trans. If you like pussy, you're not interested in a penis, that has nothing to do with trans or gay or anything else. So when you hear these discussions and women ain't stepping up, like how could you be anti-trans because you don't want to date a trans If you're a man who enjoys vaginal heterosexual sex, like that's what I enjoy, I enjoy pussy, but I'm anti or I'm perpetuating some type of hate crime because I don't want to be with a trans person? See, these are the real discussions, but the media is muted. Women do feel like this. They don't have the platform.
Speaker 3:I agree 100%, because my biggest thing is it pisses me the fuck off and I will say this all day, every day that there is a trans person. They're a trans woman and they are a woman of the year. There is nothing on your fucking body that calls you a fucking woman. I was born this way, right. So now I have to step aside to give you a pedestal. That's a. I don't give a fuck. I don't care what the fuck you think. You're a fucking man. You were born a man and you're trying to tell me that you are more woman than me. I can naturally give birth. I don't need somebody else to have kids for me. This happens with me. So now I can't be a woman or I can't express my womanhood because you want to be a woman. Listen, that's great for you. I respect you. That's on you. But you're not a fucking woman. You're not me. It's not. It's it just. That's something I am. I'm not okay with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they teach you, the media teaches you to not say you said. They don't step up and glorify their shit, because it's like they're almost programming us to have to be like damn, but I'm a hater if I say that shit. Y'all really am a bigot bro.
Speaker 1:Political correctness became law without it being written into law, right, but to your point, you're talking about Bruce Jenner. Even if you're not, I'm saying you are.
Speaker 3:No, I am 100%, I am that's like 15 foot ass motherfucker. Right.
Speaker 1:I'm like woman of the year. The agenda gave him that award for bravery. I'm going to show you how he was a coward right now. I got no respect for him. I would never call him Caitlin, whatever. I do respect his opinions on trans. I really do respect it. Yeah, he's awake, right, he knows right. But here's why I there's no, there's no bravery for me.
Speaker 1:He said he had these feelings when he was in his 30s. So you was a fucking coward from 30 to 60, whatever you are, and you don't brought all these kids into it, all these grandkids that had to watch you transition, and you embarrassed the whole family because you did it on national TV and you did it for money. Now they all enjoy the money and that's the therapy for them. Damn that. Hey, we're in the hundreds of million now. This is dynastic wealth. Now, this ain't we got some bread? This is dynastic wealth. So I don't respect it. I think it's ridiculous. But back to trend. This is, and this is going to be probably unpopular opinion. I don't think it's wrong to go out on a couple of dates and not expose at your trans. I don't think that's wrong because it may be unsafe, but that's why I'm saying dates.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you why. You know you're going back to the crib. That's different you put yourself in there right now.
Speaker 1:It gets wrong when you're just going to go on dates, grab it out, see what's up and that because you're gonna get a whole bunch of no's that could have been maybe's. When you say it in the beginning You're like, hey, you look good, I like to take it. Well, you know, I'm trans. That alone is putting that's like yes or no. So my fucking natural reaction oh no, I don't go that route. One, maybe they do.
Speaker 3:And they don't know Right, and they don't know.
Speaker 1:Or whatever, or they're scared to say it no, but that's why I agree with you?
Speaker 2:Because to me that's cool. You don't have to say it. If we're about to get intimate and to me intimacy is a kiss Then you gotta let me know.
Speaker 1:You gotta let me know.
Speaker 2:Not because I'm gonna be knocking you the fuck out going to the night. It's like oh shit, I got the wrong vibe. My bad, because we're in Layton. I'm not an asshole. I'm gonna be like what, y'all gonna kill you. I was like damn bro, I really I thought you were a girl, girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know it's. These are the times when I'm gonna keep it a stack Cause I'm a old hat. They ain't a motherfucking dude that can convince me he's a woman. If I sit down with you three seconds, I already know and I ain't gotta look for no Adams Apple. I ain't gotta look for none of that. I just know it is what it is, yeah.
Speaker 3:You can't tell. I know he's saying he can't tell.
Speaker 1:You better stop.
Speaker 2:You better stop.
Speaker 3:You better stop. You got me.
Speaker 2:I'm like, wait what I don't use this you were young, I don't know what she was going with that, the one that you look like, alberto, I used to be James. James, yeah, yo, I saw him. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she played that all the way out, right.
Speaker 3:She said it that was a good one, right, that was a good one right.
Speaker 2:All right, let's switch gears, because I want to get on something different. Fox is very in touch with the legal system, with immigration, with all that stuff. I know your mom did a lot of work with immigrants and whatnot, so I know it sounds like I'm about to get into immigration. I'm not gonna get into immigration.
Speaker 2:Talk to me about the court system. Talk to me about child support. Oh, OK, how all these things are established. What? Because people need to also not only know that it's there. As a woman, you need to know your rights, but men don't know their rights as well.
Speaker 1:When it comes to this system. So I'm gonna get into it. Give me some fun, but I got to go back to the trans. Shit one second. No, no, no, because I have to address something.
Speaker 2:Well, trans, I got to pay child support as well, or do they?
Speaker 1:But I want to address up.
Speaker 2:Do they? I want to address blowing the lines. Yes.
Speaker 1:And this was the ultimate method message in the death of God was taking away the right and privilege to reproduce. That was the ultimate punch. Yes, so the death of God is that when you blur sexual. Now, mind you, let me shout out my daughter. My daughter is a big executive at J Crew, so she'd been telling me about gender fluid, clothing and glasses that have filters in them that connect to your social media, and all this shit is already a fact. Facebook developed them. It's already a fact. It just ain't out yet. But gender fluid. So the ultimate goal is that when we walk down the street, we don't know whose man or woman oh, I see your avatar. Right, we're just people. And then when you go to be intimate, you find out what kind of package you work on and no one really cares, because you're going to make children in a laboratory and your social credit score is going to determine your eligibility to create a child, and you make designer babies.
Speaker 3:So this is an episode of. Black Mirror.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right. This is China. This is exactly right, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1:But the shit is real. You know what I'm saying and it's all written. It's not no secret, it's not no conspiracy and, generally speaking, when I talk I only speak facts that are semi-easily researchable, because when you pull the shit out of nowhere, people are like eh, and you lose interest and you're wasting your breath, really, because people are happy with it or at. So let's close that out, that that is the ultimate goal of the gender fluid movement, where there is no gender, because birth will be in a laboratory.
Speaker 2:But yo, you just said that and I saw I don't know if this shit is real or not, but I saw it online that this guy changed his identity, his gender identity, to be a woman, to avoid child support.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if it's real or not.
Speaker 1:I saw it there is some reality to it. I wish I could recall it, whether that worked or not. This has worked in the prison system In some states where men say, hey, I'm a woman that gets shipped to a woman's prison, everybody's pregnant the guards, the women in the jail. So in New York state, I know it don't fly If you have a penis, you go to a man's jail. That I know. But in other states it has flown and everybody's pregnant in the motherfucker. So whether that child support thing worked or not, in theory it does work. But again, I did see it. I can't tell you if it's real. I can't tell you if it worked.
Speaker 2:I thought it was genius.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean low key.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't do it but listen, but it's genius.
Speaker 1:But there's kids starving. Yeah, no, he's an asshole.
Speaker 2:I was saying that, I was saying to think that, like yo you know what this?
Speaker 1:is the system.
Speaker 2:Let me fuck your system up, then that's the system. Here you go, bro. I'm a woman.
Speaker 1:I respect it on that.
Speaker 2:Like I go grab a titty. I go grab a titty. I be like yo, I'm a bra.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 3:I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't identify as a bra.
Speaker 3:You cannot. So what was your experience with the child support system?
Speaker 1:So first of, all.
Speaker 1:Because you got mad at kids, bro, yeah, but the thing I just want to explain to people that child support is associated with poverty, right? So I was married. My ex-wife was a doctor. I'm an entrepreneur. You don't put niggers like me on child support, even though I'm hood and all that bullshit, and I talk, I talk she was not. You don't do that, right? So, boom, you get in the system. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1:Child support, first and foremost, is 100% unconstitutional. It's illegal. It is voluntary, but you really got to know the law. Number one. Number two there's a lot of shit online. You know Child support is fraud. My man in LA I love that dude, right, he is a very knowledgeable man. He did it 22 years.
Speaker 1:You go in court and you just look at a judge that child support is illegal. I'm not that contempt. You're going for 30. You're going to sit down. There's nothing you can do unless you got a lot of bread. You got a lot of bread. You come out. You can sue everybody whatever, but most people don't. So it's not even a conversation.
Speaker 1:So what happened with me with child support is simply that I could not believe it was happening. Right, I could not believe. So I'm getting divorced. We're in Nevada, it's a 50-50 state and everything gets divided down the middle. But because I'm a real one and I had four girls at the time, I'm like she could keep the crib and her for lack of a better term what it actually was 401K, right, because I'm old school, I'm a man of men. There was a lot of money in her 401K, but I'm like that's her. She went to school four. It's crazy, right, Even though when we got married she didn't have her degrees. I put her through school, technically speaking, you know what that means. She still got a zillion dollars in loans, but I held down. The kids supported the family, whoopedy, right. So I said yo, everything's yours, it's cool, right. Custody of the kids 50-50,. I have my visitation, no problem, right. Then child support comes later, which I'll get into. So the first thing is, when I got divorced, I leave Nevada, I go to New York to get my head together, right, so my visitation. I still got a lot of bread.
Speaker 1:At this point, I'm coming back and forth from New York, nevada, new York, nevada. I will knock at the door. She will call the police. Right Now, police will come. We lived in a nice neighborhood, whatever, I'm tied it up so it looks odd. What are you doing here? I'm smart, I had my custody agreement on my iPhone, I will show the cops. I'm like look. And they're like all right, of course, yo, she not letting the kids out. They're like that's a domestic issue.
Speaker 1:You got to go to family court. So a court order is actually a personal law. So you can't kill. You kill somebody, you go to jail. A judge gives you a court order. You're not allowed to go in that bar. They take a picture of you in that bar. You go to jail.
Speaker 1:So the custody was court ordered. So by denying me my children, she violated the judge would not reprimand her, would not reprimand her. Why so? Because the family court system is lenient on the women. The family court system allows women to weaponize the court system against men. I'll prove that to you easily. You're a woman can't support my kids. Go to welfare. You're going to get child support. You're a man can't support my kids, you're going to jail. It's the only civil crime, and it's not even a crime, but it's the only civil thing. You go to jail for child support.
Speaker 1:So OK, so I'm going back and forth with the custody and the bullshit. I'm trying to get my whole mind around this. Why is she tripping? So I fuck around and move back to Nevada? Because I can't be without my kids, because, god remember, I wasn't a 9 to 5 dad. I'm an entrepreneur, so I'm freedom all the time. I'm the one who took them to school, picked them up, I braided hair in the morning, not cooked All I was used to being with my kids. So now I don't have them. So now I'm losing my identity.
Speaker 1:During the divorce I sold all my businesses Because we're 50-50 state. So the judge wanted to give her half. So I'm like, if I want to get rid of this woman out of my life, how the fuck am I going to bring her in as a business partner now? Feel me Makes no sense. So I liquidated, I got no businesses and I'm not being a father. I have no fucking idea who I am. And just generally speaking, not on all I've been, did those shit. But there's no sympathy for the man in divorce. The man, oh, he left her. It's always the Hollywood shit. Like he got a younger broad, he ran off with the secretary. He doing it no motherfuckers is falling apart, fucked up in the game.
Speaker 1:So anybody who know me knows one motherfucking thing I do not fuck with law enforcement. We not on that side, right? So after a few months I start getting these letters in the mail with a big motherfucking badge on it. So I'm already flippin'. Not to bore anybody, open it up. It's enforceable child support. There's two kind of child support. There's you're on child support pay or if make it easy on you, mr Johnny will garnish it. Enforceable child support is you don't pay, we taking the tally. We're going to bring you in the court, we're going to put you in jail. That's what enforceable is. They're taking the tally. A lot of people won't believe this. So basically, you talking to what sounds like the police, they tough right. And this is on everything. Never forget the second year on child support. I got a phone call about a week before Christmas from a private number. Never pick up private, we don't even pick up numbers. Your name ain't on them.
Speaker 1:We don't pick up Whatever compelled me to pick it up, because it called three, four time. It was definitely an African-American woman police and she was like, yeah, why don't you try putting something a little extra on that child support? It's Christmas time, wow. And hung up. The weirdest thing. I cannot explain it when I tell you that shit sent me through the roof. So let me tell you the child support story, how this went.
Speaker 1:So I know my bills at the crib, right? The bills are about 10,000 a month at the time, right? So initially I'm just and anybody who really knows banking and shit research this Initially I'm putting about 9,000, 9,500 in her account every month, directly in her checking account. I walk into Chase and do it, right. Then after a year or so, I'm like, yeah, fuck, all that we going to have. I'm putting 4500 in there. I'm putting in, chase comes up with a new guideline that says if your name is not on that checking account, you cannot deposit cash. Yes. So I call her up and I'm like y'all can't deposit cash. How you want to do it, fuck you, you're going to jail. Woopty, woopty, woop, going to jail. I'll give you like 5000 a month was 10,000. Fuck you.
Speaker 1:Talking about jail, I keep thinking shit's a game, right? I really think it's a fucking game. So let's just say for this conversation that the child support is $100 a month. Got four kids. You know it's not, but let's just say to make it easy. So every month I'm giving in, this month, ignoring the law because I have no respect, and that little $100 is piling, it's piling, it's piling, it's piling. So I go see a lawyer in Nevada this is a home of mine and he said look, man, nevada, there's no debtor's prison. Keep doing what you're doing. They're not going to put you in jail. In Nevada, there's no debtor's prison. It is what it is. One day you could cash it out. Whatever you're giving away more money, it's not a big deal, all right. So now I leave Nevada again.
Speaker 1:After a couple years I'm back in New York trying to get things cracking, because I still don't have no real business yet. But I'm still living off this bread and it's starting to burn through. She decides and to this day we don't know why, even though, as I sit here today, it's a beautiful thing she decides to move back to New York. Right, she moves back to New York. Boom, I guess subpoenaed Boom, I go to court this particular hearing. She's not there Again. I'm playing fucking games. I'm starting to go broke and I don't want to hire an attorney yet. So the judge says to me hey, you got an open order child support order in Nevada. I said, yes, she goes, we want to bring it to New York, are you cool with that? I'm like, yeah, whatever, little did I fucking know. So now I got an open order in New York that I've been paying, and now I got this Nevada coming to New York. So now I'm going to have two orders. One of them has a $23,000 deficit, this one is paid.
Speaker 2:So then I count in, though, where you've been zero.
Speaker 1:Guess what. And again, I told you I came here to keep it real. During this time I still got one foot on the block. So I had wired somebody some money to Northern California and Chase sent me a check with all my money and shut my accounts down. So when I tried to get the documents that I've been putting money, they said no and they had me on the list for suspicious activity. Bro, they could do anything.
Speaker 1:They can show you, so I'm still not even pressed because I got people who work at Chase. So I'm like yo, do me a favor. They're like my nigga, I love you. That's instant firing. Wow, that's instant firing. We can't go in her account and we cannot do it because if she challenges it, they're going to see who went in. Too big a risk. Right Now, at the time when you're desperate, you're not thinking about other people and their livelihood.
Speaker 1:You know you close to these people. You're like man, help me out. I'm about to be fucked up, but it's wrong. They got kids, they got their own life. It's bullshit, but when you desperate you do this dumb shit.
Speaker 1:So I had no wins, right. So now I got two orders in New York, right. So finally, about a year or two in, she brings me to court and she's there and I got a motherfucking lawyer, jew lawyer. She there by herself in a little Chanel suit, looking dainty, right. So I'm like man, we're going to eat her alive. Now I'm dressed to go. I got to go to Vegas on business. I'm leaving from court to the airport, right. So the judge is like you know, you got this money. And I explained to the judge. I said look, that's an order from over there. I've been paying, whatever she goes. You got the receipts. I'm like no, she's like ma'am, has he been paying? She's like this motherfucker owe me hundreds of thousands. He's a fucking thief, a scammer, a drug dealer, a master money launderer and he's nasty with LLCs, trust and all that. Everything's in his mother's name. Fuck that motherfucker. Why was she so angry? Yes, because I had the boy already.
Speaker 3:Keep it a stat, so she still wanted to be with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keep it. A stat I had the boy already. So it was you, and you know I'm again in all honesty right. Or I could go and make a whole bunch of jokes right now, but to keep it real, I'm not going to be a real man. But to keep it real. We plan to be together forever. So everything she knew was through me she was hurt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she was devastated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying, but I couldn't take the toxic motherfucking abuse no more. You know what I'm saying and I'll never take that from no woman. To this day, like no woman's going to tell me I'm a piece of shit, I'm this, I'm that. I'm a tremendous success and from what I come from, fuck that. You're not even going to cross your eyes at me Because I'm from the street. I know who your prior motherfucking man was. I know who your family is. You ain't never going to put me in that category. Cut me down right. So it was like toxic shit. It was unfortunate, yeah, you know, you just couldn't win. I was unhappy, she was unhappy, but we still plan our blind side of her and not in our blind side of her. But then I have a son right away, so I keep it a stack right.
Speaker 1:She was hurt. So the judge is like all right. So what do you want to do, bro? And I'm like what do you want me to do? She's like well, you better make her an offer, because you're going to go to jail today. I'm like bitch jail.
Speaker 2:I'm about to go to the airport.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is you talking about? She's like yeah, no, you better make her an offer. So my lawyer has said bring five grand with you, right? So I said I know this motherfucker. I said five grand, you're going to do it, I'll bring 15. He's like whatever 5,000, she says nope, 10,000, nope. I said you're on a 15,000. That's what I got on me. So she said you want it. She said I moved across the country to put this motherfucker in jail If he got 50,000 on him. I don't want it, I want him in jail. So the judge said what you want to do? I said fuck it, then lock me up, fuck out of here. And you kept your money.
Speaker 1:Worst mistake I ever made in my motherfucking life. That ego and that mouth, let me tell y'all so boom, right then, and there I don't even say it I look at my lawyer like you're a piece of shit, die slow, homie, die slow. How she won. And I got a look. I got a look. But when I tell you I told you lock me up. Before I could put my hand down, I was in cuffs. Yeah, took me in the back. Of course, the minute you in cuffs, your face itch, your head itch. Every motherfucking thing, every motherfucking. So long story short, what was fucked up about is when I go to jail. The jail is overcrowded, so there's no towels, no underwear, there's no chancletas for the shop.
Speaker 3:What did they send you?
Speaker 1:Where they sent me. Yeah, upstate. Thank God it's Orange County.
Speaker 3:Not all those rikers, I'm like yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, I wouldn't be here. So boom, so I'm upstate. So the first thing is that they put you in solitaire for two days because it's tuberculosis, Right? So they hit you with the thing, right. You in solitaire, 23 and three-fourths all day. You get 15 minutes for shower and phone call. So they say it only lasts two days. Right Now, because I'm in my area, the small perks as the guards are switching. I know these motherfuckers. So, like on the third day, I'm like yo son, I've been here three days, what's good? They're like nah, you covered in tattoos. Man, the gang unit got to study. It's a gang unit man.
Speaker 1:Oh this hell, what the fuck are you talking about? Ain't no gangs? Nah, they got to study your shit. I said, bro, at least give me a book, a newspaper, a fucking pen, because when you in that you don't even get a pen and a pad, we get nothing Just sitting there.
Speaker 3:You just switched your thoughts yeah, sitting there Replaying the whole court shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So, boom, fourth day, they let me out 10, 20 at night. So they walk me down to my cell, which is actually a dorm, right so it's, it's lights out at 1030. It's 1022 now. They knock on the door. I walk in. There's a hundred motherfuckers like this watching TV.
Speaker 1:I just looking at me and I'm like man, this is some fucking low life gutter shit. And so, boom, I walk in. I tell the CEO, I'm like yo, son, I can't be on the top bunk. Man, I just had surgery on my shoulder, which was true, and he was like, yeah, I don't really give a fuck, you're going to get up on the top bunk. So, and at the time the law is anyone over 40 can't get a top bunk. And when I say bunk, these are metal beds, it's just a piece of metal, it's not like a bed or anything of that nature.
Speaker 1:So one of the homies, my man Hove, a white boy Hove. He was like under my wing when he was a kid. He's in there. He's like yo, what the fuck? And he was like, oh man, that bitch huh. I said, man, you know what it is. So, long story short, he was in my unit and he was able to get me what I needed. You know what I mean? Shorts, chunk, let us towels, all that food, because, commissary, takes forever to get on the books. Then, when they found out I was diabetic, they didn't give me the commissary anyway. Like you get nothing, man, you feel me. They gave me a notebook and some t-shirts.
Speaker 3:No, I'll do it for you With the money. Nothing, nothing, I know. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:Because you're nothing, nothing, so, anyway, so long story short, here's the fucked up thing about jail, and these are the things niggas don't think about. And as far as the staff and medical, they were very, very nice to me. The guards was pussy. They pussy, I'll tell you. I'll tell them to their face. They pussy in there. You cannot, it's just gonna fuck your whole shit up.
Speaker 1:I have neuropathy right. So there's a medication called GABA-PENTON you take to quell the neuropathy right. Unfortunately, gaba-penton is an anti-seizure medication on the books. So when I got there, they were like yo, you straight, we got up, but we can't give you the GABA-PENTON. So I'm like why? They're like, bro, it's seizure. You don't have seizures. You know what I'm saying? You're like we're going to wean you off, but that's it. You can't have it. That was a nightmare. So I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever in this life forgive my ex-wife for that, because it was bogus. She put me in jail on spite work you know what I mean Nasty work and I suffered because I didn't have that fucking medication. That shit was real.
Speaker 3:How long did?
Speaker 2:they give you.
Speaker 1:They gave me 30 days, man. It was bullshit, but it feels like a fucking eternity, when you know what I mean. When you were a balling ass motherfucker like my life is my life. I've never punched a clock in my life. Nine to five, nothing. I was on my way to Vegas all of a sudden, you in a cell. This motherfucker got AIDS. This motherfucker got hepatitis C. Yeah, filming.
Speaker 2:How your daughter's received all that, though.
Speaker 1:Oh man, they hated their mother. They was crying like a motherfucker, oh they took your side. Oh, they definitely took. See, by this time, the tables are turning.
Speaker 3:Because they're older, they're starting to see right.
Speaker 1:So once that yeah, once that happened, bro, they were devastated that she would do it and they told me. They told me. They said, bro, every night she would call her friends and be laughing and clowning you and all that. But again, that's gutter shit. I don't even know how to repeat that and I don't take that serious. Right, they told me. I know it's real, but we move past that. You know what I'm saying, but you know what I mean. God is the greatest, amen. God is the greatest, because a lot of things turned around.
Speaker 2:Your wife I mean ex-wife obviously successful doctor. What route did your kids take? And are any of them exhibiting that entrepreneurial spirit yeah, all right. Or do they look at you like yo? That is just a jack of all trades. I don't want to do that with this crazy ass tattoo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nah, nah, nah, so all right. So my eldest she did not stick to the script. This little motherfucker. This motherfucker fell in love with a nigga, like online. She got a job at McDonald's at 14, got a plane ticket in blue. That was not part of our plan. We were a square ass, domesticated, family, suburb life. Where you going? You grew up in 5,000 square feet of marble, so where the fuck you going to live in the projects Like? What the fuck you doing? Once again, the law protected her, her little boyfriend and the adults that were protecting her.
Speaker 2:Wow, she's a child.
Speaker 1:Because there's something called teenage discretion. Oh, I never heard of it. Yeah, exactly, no one has. Until you're up against it, until you're fucking up against it, right? So she leaves the crib. We don't got to get too much into that, but she's still with the dude to this day, who I hate.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, at least it worked. He said why he's trying to see this over line.
Speaker 1:She has two kids, my wife, my daughter is the breadwinner, you know niggas, a whole bomb, I'm not afraid to say it. Two kids, whatever. My daughter is great, she's smart, she's doing her thing. Bella. Bella sticks to the script Because we said look, I'm the entrepreneur, I'm the risk taker. Your mother did it the school route. However, you want to go. Bella said I'm gonna go to school route. So Bella decides she wants to do fashion. I was against it. She goes.
Speaker 1:No, you understand Well you get it Because all my homies went to FIT and then wind up going to another four year school because they couldn't do nothing with it. So I was in that square, right. She's like no, I'm going for fashion business, bro. Now, straight up and down, I tell my daughter you're incredibly beautiful at this age. A lot of this shit has to do with your beauty. So be easy, be humble and continue learning, because it ain't always going to be like that.
Speaker 1:This kid, I could say now she was working for Serena Williams before she even got out of college and like I'm talking about one on one, direct, like Serena would FaceTimer Serena sent her an autographed tennis ball for her birthday with a little note that said don't sell this on eBay. And I'm like got tears in my eyes and she's like, daddy, you know, like it's Zales jewelry man, we just re-branded, it's not that big a deal. And I'm like my baby work with Serena. You know what I'm saying. So she just stepped in shit. So she gets out of school and, as a matter of fact, it was a J crew that said to her you know, we know, we, you're working for Serena and all that. We know you graduate this weekend. Have a great weekend, just no, monday morning. We're going to make you offer and you're going to be over here. We need you on this fire. And that's exactly what happened. And she got to office in Manhattan and all that. It's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:So now Sophia, my third, who's a lot like me, she took the entrepreneurial route. She does hair and all that, and she wants to open her own salon. So my thing with her, but she do hair in a major way. She's another one I had to have a talk to, because the fact that, like you know, we come from the barber era. You know, $10 a cut and she gets like $1,800 to put weave in Jesus Christ, you feel me. And still living at home, I'm like, listen, this ain't forever. So my promise to her is you finish school, get a business degree and I'll help you open the salons you know, financially.
Speaker 1:And then you know my baby. You know she's still in school, but she's AP, she wants to be a doctor, a medical doctor. You know what I'm saying, so hopefully that pans out. So, and then oh the boy. Yeah, I don't know what the boy going to be, so I mean he's 10. He's cute.
Speaker 2:No, weird shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I feel you Bob Say, I see that kid.
Speaker 2:I'm like yo, he's going to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1:I hope so, I don't. I don't know what plans is going to take business wise, but we do have discussions, there's no question right? So, and that goes back to parenting, that goes back to the top of this conversation is that, as a father who went out into the real world raw dog, with no safety net, you know the things you need to say to your children that weren't said to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, say, because, like at least for me, you know, I come from working class people the majority of conversation, life, everything was around bills, straight up and down. The majority of every nobody's worried about what the fuck I'm going to do when I'm older, when the goddamn mortgages do exactly and shit is jammed up and they have.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't know, man, it's just a different error, man. But when I saw, well, this is what I saw. I was born, bougie, meaning I saw my parents both work, yet there was always arguments about money. So I'm like y'all got it fucked up. Y'all both work continuously. Why do you not have money if you work? Okay, work is not it? That's how I interpreted it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So, in terms of my son, the conversations we have is simply that, like you know, when you work for someone and there's nothing wrong with working with someone you young to gain experience, but you're limited. Your experience on this planet will be limited. You will not be able to come and go as you please. You won't be able to travel as you please. So if you want to be anything like your father, you know you still got to start thinking of these things young. You know how am I going to earn money? What service can I provide? What business am I interested in? So you know, those are the kind of things. But again, he's 10. So I have about three minutes of his. You know, I have about three minutes of his motherfucking attention span.
Speaker 2:Do you push them to create their own branding, Like if you see something in them, like especially your boy, like I said, I'm not seeing doing the sturdy and doing stuff like nothing, comes up in Convo like yo listen, start doing your own thing, because that's what you're doing, Right, you did out of necessity, Obviously. That's the new marketing way, that's just the new business tactics of these days. What do you do?
Speaker 1:Do I took. No, I'm gonna be real. No, I don't. I don't nothing about Brandon, because I need to see something. I need to see something be born in him.
Speaker 2:So I could be like so you don't push your own narrative on him, right? You want to see?
Speaker 1:something. You know what I'm saying. So if I see that birth happen, then I'll start, you know, heading in that direction.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying All right, well, before we sign out, we have a special segment where it's the guest gets to ask the cast a question. What is on your mind, sir?
Speaker 1:About y'all niggas. Yeah, yeah, you want to go into the, the threesome with the teacher. Y'all freaky deekies.
Speaker 3:Oh no, that was just cap, I was opening up a whole episode.
Speaker 2:Hold on. That's for the Patreon. There is no cap.
Speaker 3:I'm going to keep it real.
Speaker 1:I feel like, first of all, I feel like I over talked, keep it a stack and I feel like yeah, like I feel like we didn't talk about parents.
Speaker 3:We still got time.
Speaker 1:I feel like we didn't talk about parenting. No, we did, though.
Speaker 2:You know what it is, man, the story was fucking wild, bro, so also yeah, drink some water.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was one shot. Anyway, look who's talking.
Speaker 1:I'm checking.
Speaker 3:No, it's just not your average parenting talk, and that's the difference.
Speaker 2:I don't want the average parents.
Speaker 3:So you know, no, that's why you feed your children. I don't give a shit. Right no we want to know the real shit, and that's you know, that's what you're talking, and that's what you came with, man.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously we're going to do a little Patreon episode and shit. We're going to go a little deep into some other stuff, but I really do appreciate you coming here. My pleasure, man, you keeping it a buck. This is a second week in a row we got a Puerto Rican entrepreneur. Yo you know what. You know what's making moves bro.
Speaker 3:I noticed them saying the same things. Yeah, I noticed like little things saying the same things and I'm like okay, that's gotta be around that shit more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, especially us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, we are who we surround ourselves with, and we're sounding surrounding ourselves with some successful Latinos and I just love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we got some legal vacation questions after the show.
Speaker 1:Are we really going to do like another episode, like a?
Speaker 3:Patreon yeah, yeah, that's just all the extra shit. That's all the extra, because if you're not, interested.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about business. Let's talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to do a Patreon, but I also want to talk about getting into that, because we're going to talk about your dog Ditty, but I want to talk about Ditty.
Speaker 3:Ditty, yeah, we do want to talk about Ditty Ditty.
Speaker 2:So for those of you watching, tune into the Patreon. It's only $3 a month, 10 cents a day, for all this behind the scenes action. Fox, thanks you for me. Thank you for being here, thanks to you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much.