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This is a Podcast surrounding the adventure, struggle, beauty and intricacies of new parenthood. Hosted by three parents, totally 10 kids in together, they go through their mazes and phases of parenting styles, parenting norms, modern day parents, their trials and tribulations whilst keeping it raw and unfiltered. Thanking you for joining us on this journey and we hope we can bring some value to new parents, old parents and those thinking of becoming parents
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The Untold Struggles of Cosmetic Recovery After Childbirth | Episode 11
When I looked in the mirror post-pregnancy, I didn't recognize the woman staring back at me. That's a feeling many moms know all too well, and it's why we're venturing into the raw and transformative world of post-pregnancy body changes with the remarkable Michelle Rodriguez. She's been where many of us have, walking the tightrope between motherhood and personal identity. Together we traverse the emotional landscape of mommy makeovers, balancing diets and squats with the stark reality of the surgeon's scalpel. Our candid discussions peel back the glossy exterior of plastic surgery to reveal the truth behind the transformations, including the nightmares that sometimes follow.
Your body isn't the only thing that can endure a drastic transformation; sometimes, it's your entire self-image. We swap stories of cosmetic journeys — from hairlines redrawn in Turkey to tummy tucks that promise a return to former glories. Here, we don't just share successes; we also confront the complications, from skin necrosis to the mental hurdles of post-surgery depression. It's a profound look at the lengths to which we go to feel confident in our skin, and how sometimes those lengths lead us down unexpected paths. Our chapter-by-chapter exploration exposes the intimate details of recovery, the importance of a strong support system, and the resilience required to heal both inside and out.
Navigating the world of cosmetic procedures feels akin to walking a labyrinth, blindfolded. We discuss the legal mazes of non-disclosure agreements, the intricacies of choosing the right professional, and the highs and lows of medical tourism. As your guides, we shed light on the emotional fortitude needed to share one's story in the face of industry silencing and the importance of community in the healing process. This conversation is more than skin-deep; it's an episode that promises to connect, inform, and empower. Join us as we tear down the facades and embrace the strength found in truth and solidarity.
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You said like yo, I just want to feel good in my clothes. You know, I remember after having my second, before having my second, some being pregnant and crying to my husband on some. I don't know if I'm going to be fabulous anymore, Like I just want to be fabulous. I don't want to lose that shit. You know what I mean. And when you put on clothes and you don't feel the way you used to feel, you're like damn, I lost it, you know. So you go to the gym, you work out, you eat, you do all these things, but the stomach muscles are like rubber bands and when you get pregnant, those, those muscles detach.
Speaker 2:Ladies and ugly men, handsome Contreras here. Welcome to Parents Uncut. I'm here with these two lovely ladies.
Speaker 3:Yes, we are also host. My name is Jasmine Jazzy's Joy Jaz.
Speaker 2:Mad slow? No, because we got to introduce her afterward.
Speaker 3:Obviously, it's only two lovely ladies Then why you always got to say some shit.
Speaker 2:Because Jackie's looking at me like I'm nuts.
Speaker 3:She's like she always got to say some shit all the time, bro, you don't know math Every time.
Speaker 4:Just these two lovely ladies I know who we are, because people listening don't see Michelle.
Speaker 2:but now they know she's here and you ruined my other intro, but go ahead.
Speaker 3:And we are so unorganized. I hate you so much. Today, yo, I'm in such a bad mood.
Speaker 2:Are you going to gaslight me like her?
Speaker 4:Yes, I'm not a gaslighter anymore Anymore.
Speaker 3:No, I pass the torch on to my bestie over here.
Speaker 2:Oh, ok. Well, that's scary, hell, no.
Speaker 4:Why? Because I'm a Gemini and a gaslighter. It's a little extra. How do you? I don't even know my name. I can't gaslight today.
Speaker 3:You should do yourself I did, but you fucking cut me off. Anyway, read your dues. Read your dues. I already said who I was. Everybody you know who I am.
Speaker 2:You sound like one of our guests. Do I know who he was? Oh yeah, and he came on here like You're right, everybody knows who I am. You're right, and everybody hit me up like who is this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, his head was very big. Anyway, yes, you're good now. Yes, I'm Jax, and we have a special guest in the house, miss Michelle Mybell, right, hey y'all.
Speaker 2:Did you just take my job?
Speaker 3:No, we got three bodyguas here.
Speaker 2:One of Dominique Cano. It's the story of my life, you know.
Speaker 3:How does it? Are you excited to be here with us today? I'm scared.
Speaker 4:You scared, don't be scared. I'm nervous, you know. We on your side, we on your side right here. Look, don't worry, we got you.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say the wrong thing.
Speaker 3:It's three against one. You can only say the wrong thing. We have an editor.
Speaker 1:I don't want my company to see this and be like oh.
Speaker 3:Oh, listen, listen, Is that who we?
Speaker 4:hired, we will bleep things out, yeah, amir. I'll start to edit.
Speaker 3:Well, today we are going to talk about a really interesting Sensitive, sensitive, sensitive. Yes, Very sensitive Popular right Topic, yes, that not many people talk about. And it's plastic surgery, yep. And why is that? Because people want to act like it's real, yeah, Well, not about acting like it's real.
Speaker 4:We want to talk about like the mommy makeovers. Yeah, you know, I mean Jesus.
Speaker 2:I'm all for it.
Speaker 4:I'm going to say mommy, makeovers only.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:That's what I want to talk about. I want to talk about all these other bitches that you know do things for no reason. And makeover nightmares oh yes, we have some.
Speaker 3:We have some makeover nightmares.
Speaker 4:And so we definitely have to talk about that.
Speaker 2:Michelle, can you introduce yourself, though, and let us know who you are and what you do with your life?
Speaker 1:Michelle Rodriguez, mother, wife, worker, hustler.
Speaker 4:That's right. Right, bad bitch. That's the chance. Is that open? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Who's? The boss, Come on girl.
Speaker 2:Teamwork the hell.
Speaker 1:Teamwork, so many people. God is a woman.
Speaker 3:Amen.
Speaker 2:God is everything. A woman here.
Speaker 3:Clearly Johnny's twin.
Speaker 2:I said Jesus, not God man.
Speaker 3:Well, you know my God.
Speaker 2:My God is an awesome God he is. That's all I remember from church as church music. Yeah, I know I haven't been there in a while too, but that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3:You guys are more than welcome to come to my church.
Speaker 2:You own a church.
Speaker 3:No, but I remember, and Jackie is too sometimes a year, couple times a year, whenever she's in trouble.
Speaker 4:Listen, I know Whenever she needs Jesus. No, I'm just, I'm really freaking busy, I am really busy.
Speaker 2:Now you be working some Sundays.
Speaker 4:That's why I work like six to seven days a week. No, I work seven days a week.
Speaker 2:That's why those checks are fluffy.
Speaker 4:They are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's talk about it so wait.
Speaker 1:you work seven days a week for work at work.
Speaker 4:At work maybe six days a week, and then, and then here, and then here, yeah, yeah, because this is an all day thing so be tired. Yeah, so definitely seven days a week.
Speaker 3:I was watching the pod from last week and I look so tired I was like I needed a red bull. Sorry guys, I was so out of there. Did you see my face?
Speaker 2:I don't watch the show.
Speaker 3:Oh sorry, You're not a fan of your own show.
Speaker 2:No, it just messes with my next show, so I have a problem with watching it. I used to do it before and then I was like you know what, let me stop doing this. Like, I study myself right. But I also make it a habit to not watch it too often, because then I start being somebody instead of just being me. I don't know if that makes any sense to anybody else.
Speaker 4:No, yeah, it's my thing. It makes sense Critiquing. I'm still going to. I don't critique myself. I watch your clips Do you, yeah, yeah, she's the most. She be fired up. No right, I know I need to stop.
Speaker 2:Y'all don't even know the clips we have in post.
Speaker 3:The angry Gremlin. No, lately Jackie's been like extra like 40's creeping up.
Speaker 2:That's why.
Speaker 4:Yes, he is extra angry.
Speaker 2:That's when you lose all those filters and you just like fuck it. This is what I really think.
Speaker 3:What filters? I don't use a filter. Damn, you're doing shade. I'm a girl over here. I use a filter.
Speaker 4:I'm not talking about face filters man, what's up with you guys?
Speaker 2:I'm like yo.
Speaker 3:Filters on hurting people's feelings.
Speaker 2:That's the over here. Listen.
Speaker 4:I don't have to be able to reach you. She's right next to you.
Speaker 2:But let's keep it a buck. Makeup is a filter.
Speaker 3:OK, no, makeup is a necessity. First of all, aka a filter. No, it's not a filter.
Speaker 2:I don't walk around fluffing my face up and telling you look oh you don't.
Speaker 4:This is handsome. Oh, oh, you don't know, makeup on your face?
Speaker 2:No, do you see makeup on your?
Speaker 3:face oh Amir, who uses the powder puff I used it to stop the shine, yeah, come on.
Speaker 2:Make the back up here. And it does not have a tint. It doesn't have a tint.
Speaker 3:No wrinkles and cake on my face. Does it look like we have cake on our face?
Speaker 2:What are you trying to say? My wrinkles?
Speaker 3:Yo, it's about to go down in here, damn.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying makeup is a filter. It's a good filter, though you can enjoy it.
Speaker 1:So what's a haircut?
Speaker 2:Is a haircut, a filter Right.
Speaker 1:A hat and what about you?
Speaker 2:know this. How crazy are you going to look at me like oh.
Speaker 4:A hat's, not a filter.
Speaker 2:Oh, your beard is not a filter. Am I wearing my hat right now? No, I was almost in my hat filter. No, I do be hat fishing, though, like if I know some fly girl's going to be there.
Speaker 4:She don't like be foreheads.
Speaker 2:I'm like doop, because when you see me with that you're like oh shit. And then like third date, I'm like yo it's crazy hot in here.
Speaker 3:Anyway, what the fuck? Makeup is not a filter.
Speaker 2:It's a necessity.
Speaker 3:OK, because if not I would be here looking pale as fuck.
Speaker 2:You'd be looking like yourself.
Speaker 3:You know like I hate you.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying are you not filtering your face?
Speaker 3:No, I'm not. I'm just bringing out, you know, the natural she's enhancing.
Speaker 2:The natural beauty with cosmetics.
Speaker 4:Johnny you don't like makeup. You. He likes to piss me off. You're one of those guys that don't like makeup.
Speaker 2:No, my daughter's in MUA. I love makeup. I'm saying it is a filter. So when they're like no filter and putting up pictures online, I'm like what you got? Like three hours of work on your face, but you mean no filter.
Speaker 4:Damn 10 minutes. Mine was like You're in MUA.
Speaker 2:You know how to do it.
Speaker 3:In 10 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't take that long. My hair takes longer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my hair definitely takes longer.
Speaker 3:The hair takes like an hour right Makeup 30 minutes the most.
Speaker 4:Anyway, that's long. We weren't here to talk about makeup filters and half filters.
Speaker 3:We're talking about body filters. Yeah, body filters, exactly. So Johnny's going to be interviewing me today.
Speaker 2:Oh shit for real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I didn't do my homework that you gave me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:You gave me homework. You gave me homework this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I didn't do it. Wait, we have. I was a bad student. I didn't do it in school.
Speaker 2:No, the thing is you're too busy organizing, so for me to give you extra stuff, I'm too busy organizing. Yeah, you make this shit wrong.
Speaker 3:I was going to ask you to do my homework for me. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:Troll back. You know, so what about my homework? Wait, I want to know what was going on.
Speaker 3:I'll have to do a timeline of everything that I went through so that I can better tell the story Right. So when it's?
Speaker 2:happening when a story like that, you remember the heavier stuff but then the small stuff that really matters to certain people because they went through it as well. You miss out on that. So they're watching and they're like all right, cool, I don't relate. But they can relate to that one part. Yo, I was vomiting three days in a row. That little thing could just pull them in. I mean, I don't know if that happens after surgery. Just using an example.
Speaker 4:No, I'm sure it does happen. I guess, depending on how your body reacts to some of the medication, Can you handle the pain? Can you not handle the pain? I guess that is a fact.
Speaker 3:So, you just had surgery.
Speaker 2:I was going to say has everybody here been under the knife?
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we all have All of us.
Speaker 2:I'm getting my hair line in Turkey in about two years, so I could join you guys, I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 4:What else are you getting done?
Speaker 2:Getting my shit back to here. I don't know, should I remove my t-chos, whatever? Should I just work out. Yeah, I work out.
Speaker 3:No, no, as us, we took a shortcut.
Speaker 4:For me, I Do enjoy the gym. I do enjoy, yeah, and then no, I will say I enjoyed going to the gym and then I got discouraged. Yeah, I got super discouraged because I used to go super hard. And then it was like nothing. What's happening?
Speaker 3:and then my life.
Speaker 4:I'm up change your nutrition going to the gym, working out.
Speaker 2:It's 19 different things to lose 16 pounds. Yeah, like you literally have to have your hormones and check right now that you're sleeping, the stuff that you're eating, how much time you spend in the sun like there's a bunch of random shit.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna say it didn't work. It just didn't work to the extent that I needed it to work for me, right? So I had been thinking about it, talking about it getting a tummy tuck, right. That's all I wanted. That's the only thing I wanted to change on me. Mama for kids, I don't have my body the way that I want my body to look, the way I used to look, or not even the way I used to look. I want to put on clothes and I just want to feel comfortable, right. So I was like I'm gonna do it, fuck it one day, researching, looking, you know, I had already. I knew the doctor I wanted, but then he moved and he and I wasn't going to Dallas. So I was like, fuck it, let's see what's happening. I saw that the place that I wanted to go to, they opened up a space here in New York. So I was like, all right, even better, I don't have to leave, right, I won't have to travel, I won't have to. That's an extra expense that I don't have to spend. And I did it out here.
Speaker 4:I Did my surgery in January. I Was gonna do it in November. I, I they called me like a week before the surgery and was like I don't have a CRNA to assist your surgery and I was like, hmm, okay, didn't feel good about it. They asked me if I wanted to do it the day before I was scheduled and I was like I Said yes at first and I was like, if that doesn't work for me, can I call you back and change the date? They said fine. They said without, you know, we won't charge you because they charge you like $1500 just to change, change the date, yep. So I was like, okay, cool, no problem.
Speaker 4:I Spoke to my sister, I spoke to Mike and I was like I don't, I don't know what to do. It doesn't feel good. But I don't like I want to do it. It doesn't feel good, I don't know whatever. They both were like this doesn't feel right, let's, let's change it. So yeah, and I just kept on thinking I don't want a tired doctor. The only thing I wanted was to be the first person that my doctor touched. That was the only thing I really really wanted. So I changed. I changed it for January. I felt better about it, I had more time to kind of sit with it, get ready, go in for surgery, and I was good. I didn't have any issues at all. Listen, I was prepared to like, feel the pain, everything. I didn't take any pain meds. I literally was on Tylenol the whole time.
Speaker 3:I was like I'm calling her, like how are you? She's like I'm great. I'm like what? Because my experience was totally different. Yes, she's, I saw her when you know, the only thing she had was like a little hunch, yeah that was, that was it.
Speaker 4:That's it. Well, other than that expected, which is expected. However, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have listened to everything that my doctor said, and my doctor happens to be Michelle's doctor.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, my butcher. I wouldn't call him a doctor and that's the thing that I was.
Speaker 4:It's so crazy because I had that really, really bad feeling in my gut and I Almost wanted to change my doctor and I was like, fuck it, I'm already doing this. So I gotta go all in, I have to, I have to get it done right, already paid for, have to do it. So I Mean I guess I could have lost the money, but nobody wants to do that, right, right. So I was like I felt really crazy about it. Thank God I didn't have the experience that a lot of women you know, my lovely lady you know what I went through?
Speaker 4:Yes, like I was trying to do everything Different. But I would not have listened to him had I known all of the things that, like he told me not to wear a Faha. He told me not like all of the things that he told me to do was wrong, like I, literally like I wasn't in as much pain, but he like told me don't get the massages, don't like all of those things. And I went behind his back. I was like that I'm getting these massages. I told him that I went to get a massage and he was like don't do them like.
Speaker 1:And I was like I just want you to be fucked up so he can have to go back in and fix you and chart. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 4:That's so crazy to me because even the girl like the, the nurse, she was like just listen to him and I was just like, but this doesn't like Even the, what they give you in the, like the, the paperwork, the post op, the, all the post op like information. They tell you to do these things. So I'm like mmm, I don't know, I'm, I kind of don't want to go off of his opinion and I want to go it off of what this is telling me to do, because this just seems more on track and I'm glad that I just went with my gut, did all of the things that he told me not to do, like, and it was a definitely he's really.
Speaker 3:Did you research, so you know.
Speaker 4:I did, and I was researching for years. For years I was research, researching this. So I was like all right, I mean I'm not a doctor, I'm not, so you had a good experience with doctor. I did with this doctor. However, michelle did, my lovely friend here did not have, I did not.
Speaker 1:The same Doesn't he give you like, so you just can't say his name. Yeah, creepy vibes, you know evil kanevally.
Speaker 4:I said that he sounded like Dracula. Yeah he's not like, what's his nationality? I don't know. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, but yes, yes, yes, but he does. He like sounds like Dracula, he's like, he's really tall, like I Needed to be on because I, you know, I'm not, I'm vertically challenged, so I he needed a step stool to like to draw a mark, me and everything, because he's really tall even like sitting.
Speaker 4:He was very tall so, yeah, he does sound like Dracula and not creepypies vibes that I got, but I will say that his breath stinks. Oh, I got one so bad and I was like the whole time hold me though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so. So, michelle, what was your experience with this?
Speaker 1:the butcher so sadly, he was referred to me and the person who referred him to me didn't have the nicest of incisions, which should have been the first red flag. But I Don't know, there was a comfort in knowing that he worked on somebody that I knew, even though it wasn't great. Maybe he just had a bad day or didn't get enough sleep, I don't know. So I went to him. I went to him with my best friend and we were negotiating for like a deal, because it was like two of us and we're having different surgeries, but We'll pay cash. Like can we get like a better deal? And you got an amazing deal.
Speaker 4:And now I'm kind of skill, I'm like shit, I'm like a phenomenon that this went well because I had such a freaking crazy ass deal and I'm like, did I have that, get that deal? Because Maybe he's, you know, Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:I could see that I've definitely put him on blast.
Speaker 3:Did he work with you? Did he give you a deal?
Speaker 1:He did. He gave me like a thousand dollars off, but Then he charged me 1500 because he had to fix. So wait, what did you have? A procedure? So I just had a tummy tuck.
Speaker 3:Okay, Did you have the lipo 360?
Speaker 1:No, no, okay, we didn't do anything. We didn't. No lipo, no fat transfer. Should have. Should have been a red flag when he was asking me for weed. Yeah, what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like can I can can you, can you find me like weed? Because you know, I admit it, that I smoked and um, and one of my visits he was like, do you think like if I gave you money like you could Find me weed? Shut the front door, mm-hmm. But had you know, I had my consultation, had my surgery. The day of the surgery I wasn't even fully out of like being under the anesthesia, like I really wasn't fully fully awake. And before you know it, I'm being walked down To the lobby for my husband and pick me up.
Speaker 1:The facility at the time was in front of a bus stop on Madison Avenue, so it's not like a rinky dinky, you know shop uptown, like it was, you know, a pretty decent location, I'm thinking a pretty decent doctor, yeah, um. And so my husband couldn't pull up and just wait in the front because it was a bus stop, so they just stuck me in the pharmacy, sat me on a chair. I'm literally like slumped over like a tecata because I'm not fully awake. I was throwing up the whole way.
Speaker 3:They and they let you go like that, even though they know you're throwing up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, let me go. I was looking for the wheelchair. I was like wait I? I came with my friend for surgery and they wheeled her out.
Speaker 1:It was my wheelchair. That's crazy, no wheelchair. So my bedroom is on a third floor and michael was on the second floor and I just kept feeling like I can't move, like I can't move my legs, I can't sit up, I feel like I'm gonna pass out. And then, um, I called for him and I was like can you get my asthma pump? I'm thinking like, I feel like I can't move, I can't breathe. Asthma pump did nothing. I was like can you get me my, my steroid pump, because I used to work out a lot of tight.
Speaker 1:Likes, right you? Yeah, like you. I was going to the gym like a gym rat.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was there three hours. We were on a reality show and the camera adds 10 pounds. So I'm really not this fat, but no, no. But I was going to the gym like a beast, like a beast, like a beast, and I wasn't seeing the results. So, um, I had my asthma pump, had my steroid pump, nothing, nothing. And then I remember telling my husband I was like yo, I feel like I'm gonna pass out and just boom, passed out. And then, you know, I woke up. I don't even know, maybe like 10 seconds, 20 seconds later he's on the phone.
Speaker 1:When I went one they come in and then they were doing like my vitals, all that, and I was just like I didn't want to go to the hospital, I didn't want to incur another bill. So I'm like talking to the, you know the emt, and I'm like do you think I should go? He was like I think so there's tests that they can run that I can't do here. So I was like okay, and then I went to get up to sit like on a wheelchair, passed out again. So they kind of carried me Down the stairs and almost like a body bag, oh my god, which is like a little disturbing, yeah and went to the hospital. They had to open up my compression garments. They moved the drain. I got this really bad infection because the drain was moved. I was swelling up. I looked like I had a head coming out of my hip, like it was really bad.
Speaker 4:Fluid buildup because they took out the drain.
Speaker 1:I know my man is not snoring over there Yo.
Speaker 2:I wasn't going to say anything.
Speaker 1:No, I know that wasn't you. I know you snore. Oh my God You're. We boring you, I can't. You're fired, sir, sir, you're fired.
Speaker 4:So you had a long night.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4:We're going to give him a little bit of grace.
Speaker 1:Just keep the snoring to a minimum. Please don't interrupt me anymore. Thanks, no, but that's pretty much it, you know like.
Speaker 3:So when you got to the hospital, what did they say? Did you lose a lot of blood? I wasn't bleeding.
Speaker 1:So I, apparently I have vasovagal, vasovagal.
Speaker 3:Vasovagal like Johnny.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I didn't even know, I forgot it. Yeah, because my husband has it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what was the club?
Speaker 1:I know, and yeah, so I guess like my heart rate and my blood pressure was dropping.
Speaker 2:It must have got triggered by that surgery, by you. The shock. You're thinking about everything and you're just like yo. What's going on with my body?
Speaker 1:So I was. I kept passing out in the hospital, wow, fuck out of here.
Speaker 3:But everything like was your levels okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they, let me, they let me go home. That same day I was like bedridden for like three weeks, like I couldn't even because, like you, he suggested that I not wear a compression garment, not get the massages, and so he was just pumping like pinkillers in me because I was in so much pain?
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you're in so much pain because you need those massages.
Speaker 1:But see, like I didn't do a lot of research, right, because I was so like I just want to get this shit done, right, and so I just kind of jumped without like fully knowing what I was jumping into.
Speaker 3:How was your aftercare with him?
Speaker 1:Did you go back, maybe like once or twice, and I remember like looking at myself in the side and I was like what the fuck? I thought I was going to be like massnatched. He's like no, it's swelling, you'll get there he was. He kept feeding me the BS and I was just like okay and like kind of listening to him, like all right, well, all right, maybe in like two weeks I'll be snatched. Or two months and never got snatched, got to go to Columbia for that shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or DR right, I don't know. I kind of want to go to Columbia anyway. No, not my.
Speaker 3:But what were your complications? So you say you had to go back, right? So I guess.
Speaker 1:Second, procedure, so I had to go back to get the dog ears revised and that's a side effect that they wanted. So at the end of your incision. Based on like, I guess, like your skin, excess skin, it kind of creates like a little flap like a little, like a little poke at the end, so he had to like fix it yeah which is like extra skin, you know, like like a fold, almost like yeah, but I developed, like you, a skin necrosis. But I developed that once I put on the compression garment.
Speaker 4:Really yeah. Do you think that that with the compression garment, because it they're tight right that stop flow? How long after surgery?
Speaker 1:Three weeks. So I remember my girlfriend who, from DR, has had surgery a bunch of her family and friends have had surgery and I remember she came to visit me and I was still hunched over. She was like girl, come on, like straighten up. And when she grabbed me to like straighten me up, she was like where's your father? And I was like I'm wearing it. It was like a little leotard. She was like that's not a father.
Speaker 1:She literally called a big time plastic surgeon from DR, got on the phone, on speaker phone and she said to him you know, she just had surgery and she's not in a compression garment in a father. He said in Spanish. She was like that's abuse, that's literally like torture, how they not going to put her in a compression garment. So she went home, she got me a compression garment that she had on deck and I'm crazy, right. And she had that shit on deck. She put me in it. She kind of like tucked me in bed and the next morning when I woke up I walked on the stairs like nothing. But it was when I walked up the stairs that I just walked up and took my bed and when I sat down I was like, oh shit, I could walk Because it just holds everything in.
Speaker 3:It really does so. It makes you feel secure. Did you have the muscle repair tool?
Speaker 1:I did, I think.
Speaker 3:I hope I don't even know what I got. So it holds everything in and because anything you do, when you have that surgery you're having pain Like if you sneeze yes. Oh my God, it feels like you're getting killed.
Speaker 4:I had the worst cough. So going into the surgery I was just like getting over being sick and then so I had this lingering cough for like a month that I was like the coughing hurts, so fucking bad you imagine throwing up the day you have that I can't even. That's terrible, that healing moment.
Speaker 3:Oh my God. So how did you get the lacrosis?
Speaker 1:I'm assuming it was after putting on the compression garment because it was so tight. It literally was right under my belly button, so right where, like you know, everything comes together, it just started to develop and I remember going to, I mean it was like don't, everything was, don't worry, don't worry, that's going to go away, that's going to come down, that's going to go up, that's this, that's that. You're just feeding me the juice.
Speaker 3:How did like? What were your symptoms? Oh my God, did it turn black? Did it smell? It did not smell. I think I would have fucking died if that shit smelled, I was walking around like a corpse.
Speaker 1:Oh, Mine was really small. It wasn't like it wasn't big, it was a little small like Under your belly button Right under my belly button. How?
Speaker 3:long did it take to heal?
Speaker 1:I don't even know. Maybe like Months, I don't think months, maybe like six weeks, but I can't like, I don't, I don't really remember. This was in 2017.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so, now that you're fully healed, would you have done it again?
Speaker 1:Yes, just not with him, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:At the end of the day, like you said, like yo, I just want to feel good in my clothes. You know, I remember after having my second, before having my second son, being pregnant and crying to my husband on some. I don't know if I'm going to be fabulous anymore Like I just want to be fabulous. I don't want to lose that shit. You know what I mean. And when you put on clothes and you don't feel the way you used to feel, you're like damn, I lost it. You know. So you go to the gym, you work out, you eat, you do all these things, but the stomach muscles are like rubber bands and when you get pregnant, those muscles detach. Oh yeah, no matter how hard you work out, they're not coming back together, unless it's surgically.
Speaker 4:And it's not only like, it's not only the muscles, it's your skin too, because nothing like I see a lot of these girls working out right and they're losing the skin. Thank you, jesus, for them. Right, that's lovely. It just didn't happen for me. It did not happen for me, no matter what I did, the stretch marks none of that is going away. None of that was going away. So I want to look good for myself. I did this for me. I didn't do this for anybody else. I did this for me, so that when I look in the mirror, I mean still, I mean we're still healing right. And you know, thank God, I didn't go through that. But you look, your scar looks amazing. No, my scar is really like he practiced on me.
Speaker 4:He made mistakes on me.
Speaker 1:I feel horrible.
Speaker 4:Like oh, I almost feel like you know, I almost have like a survivor's guilt. Like seriously, because it's like fuck. When you said your doctor's name, I was like that's crazy, what? Yeah, I was like no way. Like she was like oh no, I'm scared of that place. And I was, she was like actually my doctor. And then when she said it, I was like no, there's no way. There's no way we have the same exact doctor.
Speaker 3:Did you check like? Did he have any like bad reviews?
Speaker 4:No, I checked and I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my bad review.
Speaker 4:You left one, but that's the thing though. I didn't find that, and now I'm wondering I'm sure they, yeah, they've got yeah, they do those things. Yeah, you know that. I've done it yeah, Even yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not in my business. I ain't losing money off no disgruntled person.
Speaker 4:Well, this is a different. This is not a disgruntled person Like this is a traumatic experience. Yeah, you know you're, you're putting someone through and you're still out there chop shopping it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like yo. You should have gave me my money back. I didn't come out looking like Barbie the way you said I was.
Speaker 3:That's what happened to me. Listen, I think I went through the worst experience Anybody could go through it.
Speaker 2:That should sound like death.
Speaker 3:When you say it Like it was. It was a three month process to recover from it. So you know, I had Katie, my youngest, and it was a C section. That was my first C section. So after the C section, women have this thing called the kangaroo pouch. So I lost, I lost the weight. I lost 50 pounds during COVID because I was in like a big depression. I went through a really bad time and I lost the weight in two months 50 pounds and it's like two months.
Speaker 1:So not depression, weight loss.
Speaker 3:It was yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:But you get that. I want to get that word.
Speaker 3:You know, I was feeling insecure with the extra skin so I wanted to do surgery. So I wanted to do it here. Because you hear all the bad stories about DR even though it looks great but you hear the stories about all these women dying and stuff, so I'm like let me just pay the money here she's a liar.
Speaker 2:No, it's not lies that it's Dominican surgeons are the best surgeons on earth.
Speaker 4:Cut that out, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, um, I did it on Long Island right. I paid around 18 grand. Yes, I had an extended tummy tuck and lipo 360. Oh yeah, so the doctor at the time was very IG famous right.
Speaker 3:And the reason I wanted to go to him was because his belly buttons looked natural. So I was like I don't want to walk around here with the little coin slot like a lot of these chicks out here. So, um, and I should have. I got a feeling because my my surgery was scheduled for November 11, 2020, and then they had a cancellation the week before. So they're like, oh, we could get you in tomorrow. So then my gut was like, but then I'm like I might as well just get it over with, right? I was the first surgery of the morning. It took like four hours. Right During that time I lost a lot of blood, yeah, and then he took too long like closing me up, but he didn't say that he did. He didn't say that to us until after when I found out why this happened to me. So I lost a lot of blood supply to to my incision Time out Vasavigo no.
Speaker 1:My shit is not that weak. Don't be funny why I was waiting for him to say something, why, why he took so long to stitch you back up Like he went like on a lunch break or like, honestly, because he wanted all the clicks for social media. You got paid for that? No, I didn't. So you signed off on that I did. Oh, girl, I would have been like we're going to take the eight out, take the one from in front of the eight out, and then you can use that content.
Speaker 3:So after the surgery.
Speaker 3:Like you said, they quick to get you out of there so they can bring in the next patient in. I had a wheelchair, thank God, but I was like I don't even think I was awake. Yeah, no, you weren't, because I remember being put in a car and then going to a hotel because I stayed nearby, like because I had to go back the next day and I was out of it that day. I remember I was in so much pain and like my girls were checking on me and I was just like I didn't even want to get up to eat or drink, I just wanted to sleep because I was in a lot of pain. I was old day on the pain pills.
Speaker 3:Honestly yeah because it was intense. So the next day I went back and he was in surgery, so he didn't see me. So one of his assistants saw me and she was like oh, everything is great, send me home. Of course I had a Faja right.
Speaker 3:I'm in a lot of pain during this time. While I'm at home I can't even walk. I needed help with everything. Going to the bathroom I was in so much pain because the lipo on my back. I was bruised. I was completely black and blue all over Goals. I couldn't do anything. I was sleeping on a freaking inflatable. I remember, oh, freaking inflatable, because I couldn't, you know, I had pillows galore. So then it's like a week later, five days later, I had an appointment for the week follow up. But five days later I had this bruise and it was just turning blacker, like really black, and all my other bruises at that point were like getting like yellowish. That one was just getting darker and he texted me to see how I was doing. I sent him a picture. I was like this bruise is not. You know, it's something's not getting lighter. He was just like I need you to come in now.
Speaker 1:So here At least.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I went over there he looked concerned but he didn't want to say what it was. At this time I was already Googling stuff like what is this? You know what is this? I remember you in the group chat so I was scared. I was like I hope this is just a bruise, I hope it's not necrosis. Looking at pictures of necrosis, I was traumatized. So I went to him and he tried to do this platelet treatment where they took my blood and they like inserted it back. Yeah, they spend it and inserted it back. And then they put like this patch on me. It was like a suction patch and he was just like you know, let's see if it gets better in a week. So, doing this whole week, I'm seeing like the thing is absorbing all my fluids and I'm starting to have a smell and it's smelling worse by the day, like and I was going I can't even explain the smell like rotting meat girl, like when you have a band-aid on and it fits along and it's wet.
Speaker 3:So I'm standing in pictures and I'm telling him, like this is not getting, like it's, it's looking wet, like he's like, oh, it's fine, don't worry, I'll take it off when I see you, I'm going to get my massages, and the lady's like you have an infection. And I'm like, well, he said I don't have an infection and she's like you have an infection. So finally I went back to him to get the patch removed. As soon as he took the patch off, all my skin just collapsed, everything collapsed. I was hysterical because I was by myself. I had a guy from my job drive me, so I don't have any, any support with me. Some hysterical crying. I'm like what the fuck is going on? Like my stomach just like sunken. Oh my God, they start doing cutting out. It's called the, the bridement, so they were cutting out all the dead flesh again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Then he's like are you okay?
Speaker 4:I'm so upset.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm listening, cause she, she told me this we need some alcohol.
Speaker 3:She told me the story prior. So after that he's like you need to go to wound care. What First he said I need to go to like the oxygen chamber treatment. That it'll help me, you know, get my blood flow back and heal faster. So I went to that like three times. I felt like I was in a time machine, you in this glass encasement for like an hour, just straight oxygen coming into me. On the third visit there I saw the nurse practitioner, cause I was starting wound care, and as soon as she saw me, like he was telling me it was every day he was checking and he was saying it was not infection, but my skin around it, like all my surrounding skin, was like red and it just looked it had fever and it was hot. Yeah Right. So I, as a Filipino lady, she was just like if you don't go to hospital, you're going to be dead by next week cause you're going to get sepsis.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And she was like you have a bad infection and you need to go to hospital right now, or is she going to die? At that point I lost it. I was scared. I'm not, and I wasn't scared about dying, right, I was scared about my kids. What's going to happen to my kids? That was my number one concern. I'm hysterical. There in the fucking waiting room, I remember calling my sister. I couldn't even get the words. I was like I need to go to hospital. Thank God I went to the women's hospital, cohen's. What is it? Cats, cats. As soon as I go there, right, I'm in the wheelchair.
Speaker 3:You know, when they take you in, like to pre-screen, you'll see why you're there. They were like what country did you do this in? And I was like I did it here, this country. And they were like no, this, this doesn't happen here. She was like you look like you just came from another country. Everybody. I was like a spectacle and they put me in a room, everybody's coming in, like to see this freaking huge hole in my stomach. It looked like I got shot with a shotgun. It was like it's a big that you could put your whole fist. Like you could look through Girl girl, they were putting their whole fist inside of my.
Speaker 3:That's how big it was.
Speaker 1:But where were your three paws? Wait a minute, I'm so confused Well it's low.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know, they admitted me. They admitted me During that time I had to have, like another surgery because I had too much fluid buildup, so they were concerned about that. So they did a surgery to remove all that excess fluid and then the second one to cut out all the dead, everything that was remaining, all the dead stuff. They cut everything out. During that time I'm in the hospital. It was about to be Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3:I'm in hospital for eight days on the strongest antibiotics and it was during COVID time, so I could only have two visitors. I couldn't see my kids. I was. I was regarding the surgery. I was just like crying every day, like I wanted my support team there and I couldn't have anybody. I had to find myself at the hospital because they didn't want to let me leave and it was Thanksgiving. I was like I got to be with my kids on Thanksgiving. I was like I'll finish taking the antibiotics at home, so they let me leave with antibiotics as long as I had the that's the cycling, which is the strongest antibiotic. I had to take that and I had to have a nurse come to the house every day to clean my wound and to pack it. So this had this the nurse coming to my house every day. Thank God, I was working from home during this time.
Speaker 3:It was 2020. Dealing with the kids all at the same time. While I'm dealing, recovering from this, every day a nurse will come take out all. They had to pack it with gauze and like saline so they don't stitch it back. No, essentially, everything has to grow back. All your tissue has to grow back. All of that had to grow back.
Speaker 3:So it was a process. And when she would take those bandages off from inside, sometimes it would get stuck and that would be so painful because it was nerve pain. Remember, all my nerves are exposed. So I was crying, like I'm telling you the pain that I went through was unbearable. Thank God for this surgeon that I followed up with. After the hospital, he gave me gabapentin remember, it's a nerve pain so it made it better for me. Like I would take that before I had to shower and like wash inside of the wound. Yeah, so it's that. That whole process with packing it took about eight weeks and then finally, when, as it was like closing up, I got a wound back. So that's like another kind of sponge thing that absorbs all the excess fluids attached to like a vacuum, and I had to carry this bag with me with a machine like sucking all the fluids out for another month and then at that time I was back to work, so I had to carry that machine. People are like what is that? I'm like it's an oxygen.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I had some surgery. I'm fucking dying, leave me alone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so now did you incur all these additional expenses, or was that something that he was like? I fucked up, that was using my insurance at that point. Oxygen chamber, all of that Nurse at home yeah, wow, well, at least insurance covered.
Speaker 3:Thank God I had really good insurance but I still had. You know, I still had, I still have hospital bills. I had to pay that shit. Not paying that, but it was a lot of money. She's gonna pay, she's just shopping, I am not paying it. She said, fuck that, I'm not paying. So it was it took me. I had to surgery in November. It wasn't until March that I was fully healed. But I wouldn't even say I'm fully healed because I had really excessive scar tissue now. So that whole area it's hard. So I get sometimes I get like my. My scar tissue will just like tighten up. So I'm still dealing with the pain. You know I get it. It depends. Sometimes I don't feel anything like it's numb to touch, but the inside, since all of that is scar tissue, it's still some painful sometimes.
Speaker 4:And then I had a horrible scar that like the, it's like somebody stabbing real quick.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's the nurse, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3:My scar was horrible. I had a horrible scar. I have pictures of my surgery, from every day of the healing process, so I was looking at them earlier. But I just I got a tattoo over it to cover the scar. Yeah, thank God that didn't hurt, because that was numb on. You know, on the surface I don't regret the surgery because it did help me with my confidence. You know, at that point I just burped it's okay. Okay, it did. But my confidence after I was healed, after I was healed, you know, I felt much better because I liked my shape. I love it, you know. But I still feel disfigured because on some, you know, depending on what I wear, you could still, you could see the dense. It's there, notice.
Speaker 2:So that means never grew back.
Speaker 3:No, it grew back, but it's not the same the skin. I'm going to show you a picture.
Speaker 1:I'm good Right, it's not flat.
Speaker 3:It kind of like it's like this and then it's a dent, like you know. So I mean, this is what it is. I stole a good naked.
Speaker 2:Did you research this person?
Speaker 4:Yes, she did.
Speaker 2:And there's nothing online. There was nothing crazy about him either.
Speaker 4:I literally like I was like there has to be something. There has to be something.
Speaker 2:He fucked up there has to be something. Well, you never wrote a review after.
Speaker 3:I didn't because.
Speaker 2:Because what? Because you don't want to help other people out Like you have to? No, because I couldn't.
Speaker 3:It was in the agreement.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I couldn't. I tried to steal, I couldn't. I had one lawyer take the case and then after a few months she said you know, she couldn't, she couldn't this fucking contract.
Speaker 2:That's rock solid.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and thank God for my friends Like they were great support. Like Jackie, my girls came to visit me because I was home and I was so depressed, mm, hmm, you know, I felt like, I felt stupid, I felt like embarrassed. Yeah, I was like why did I put myself through this? So it was a lot of like regret. I was crying every day Like I don't know why I did this.
Speaker 1:I know that feeling girl. I feel like even when you, when you have a good end result, you still go through a little bit of the depression because you're like, damn, like, oh, this scar, this is a big scar, but also and swollen.
Speaker 3:You don't see the results right away At all. So I was swollen on top of having that freaking hole, like I'm like what did I do to myself? But that is normal, because that you know after you don't see the results right away. Because when I had a breast reduction how long ago now Harmony was like three years old, so that's like 17 years ago. At first, when I saw myself, my boobs after I took the bandages off, I felt like uh, desired, I felt like a dyke, like I had no boobs, oh Christ.
Speaker 2:She felt like a macho lesbian.
Speaker 3:Yo, I felt like I had no boobs, like they were like flat, like it wasn't horrible because you have to wear like a special bra.
Speaker 3:You have to wear like first they have the bandages and then you have to wear like tight, like compression. But when I took, when I took them off like I had nothing, I looked like a man chest and I was just like what did I do? But after healed I had nice perky boobs for like good year and then you're a two and then you gain weight and you're boob my group. But they grew back.
Speaker 4:They grew I was able to wear no bra.
Speaker 3:Yeah, huh, not as big. They didn't grow back. No, they grew back, big girl. But the only difference is the only reason why I had the breast reduction is after breast feeding. Like I said on the last episode, like my boobs were like worn from breastfeeding, I was just like a fucking water balloon at that point. So they grew back. But you know, at least now there's yeah. And they still. That's good. There's still what they still, they still point that way, Not this way. They're looking up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, down Questions. How are you feeling? How are you feeling? Are you still here?
Speaker 2:with us. Now I start thinking all right, all these contracts, so you're not allowed to even talk shit. Right, and a few, probably like a year ago. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Shalene Johnson, but she's like one of the biggest fitness people. Remember P90X? Yes, she was with that company Beachbody. She has Shalene Extreme, which was kind of like the female version of it. She's very popular. She's big on social media now, like pushing people. She's an older woman. About two or three years ago, I think, she went in for like a breast reduction or some shit. I forgot what it was and it was a horror story Like she almost died.
Speaker 3:She got an oprocess too.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I didn't really research the story, I just remember Shalene like I'm like what the fuck, what's?
Speaker 3:the other fitness shit.
Speaker 2:And instead of the fitness shit, she was like uh-uh, I'm putting this guy on blast, Like she was suing him, and I think they uncovered way more cases of people that just couldn't speak up because of the same reason. Right, they were under contract and I was. I remember that time being like damn, if the risks are that bad in America as well, you might as well go save the bread and take your ass like Columbia or DR or some shit, because you don't expect it.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:Like, honestly, like you look into this stuff over here, you're like, oh yeah, paying top notch dollars, I got a top notch doctor, I'm on Madison Avenue, it's a rap baby, and then shit happens, yeah, so I don't know. Like to me in my head, I'm just like how, like, why and how are these people protected?
Speaker 3:But I will say, after I guess he found out that I was trying to sue him, he stopped posting his surgeries.
Speaker 4:He realized that he fucked up.
Speaker 1:At least he had to have at least that much yeah. I feel like if he wasn't a TikTok doctor, that would have been it was Snapchat famous, yeah, or whatever. Yeah, that would have never been part of the contract. Like yo, if I fuck up, you can't put me on blast Exactly so that wasn't in my contract. I was blowing that. Oh, you see that.
Speaker 3:So also after I had the surgery, through the wound care process, I found like they were like go on Facebook, you'll find a lot of like support pages for people who had the surgery and hold that with that and I thought that was bad. There's this other girl she just did a show. Where came, michelle, talking about her plastic surgery nightmare. I'm telling you she lost her whole stomach, all everything. Oh God, she's a beautiful girl, but she's the one who helped me during that time, showing me pictures of her stomach and how she healed. Like literally, I had that, but hers was everything.
Speaker 4:I've seen it. I've seen so many pictures of surgeries gone wrong. That's terrible and I was like please Jesus.
Speaker 1:You saw them before or after? Before, I would have never did surgery.
Speaker 3:And she saw mine. Yeah, I was sending pictures every day, like look at this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was like well also like the surgeries were different, the doctors were different, right? So I was like this is all I'm doing, I'm not doing anything else. And I did, I did lipo, I did. He said the lipo on the side.
Speaker 3:No, she got to see how it was right now.
Speaker 1:I got jerked.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not right now you got it.
Speaker 4:Because we're bloated.
Speaker 3:No, I saw her the other day while I'm like girl. You look so good.
Speaker 4:I did a lot of research and like people were like, so you should get the massages, you should get them at least a package of 10. I did a package of 12. She gave me 13. And I still like I love her, like I will forever go back to her. She's like I'm like yeah, what do you think I need? Like she wants to do the, like the what's the other one that you did?
Speaker 3:The one with the wood.
Speaker 4:Yeah, wood therapy Girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that should hurt. That would therapy. At first of all, I did it prior to my surgery, right, because I, since I lost all the way, I was trying to like tone everything up. It feels like they fucking you up with a fucking palo.
Speaker 4:They were there. They are so rough they are.
Speaker 3:Girl. I had bruises all over my body before the surgery because they were fucking me up. But it does work. No, it won't. In my head I used to be like beauty is pain beauty is pain.
Speaker 4:Look, I have a really high pain tolerance, so I'll sit there and I'll take it.
Speaker 3:She likes that shit.
Speaker 4:She's a fucking masochist A little bit all of that stuff, like I'm all for it. The aftercare I felt like I kept on saying it too, like we have friends that have gone through surgeries and stuff and I'm like yo, your aftercare is the most important part. Yeah, I was like, don't skip on it. You have to do your, your massages, you have to like all of these things.
Speaker 2:I saw a video on TikTok it was important the other day.
Speaker 4:Yeah, nutrition, all of that stuff. And let me tell you something I'll be fucking it up I do not do good nutrition. I had baked macaroni and cheese three times this week and I went to the bar at least four times Like yeah it is what it is.
Speaker 3:Life's the life, and you know yes.
Speaker 4:I have a stressful job, so I was like macaroni and cheese is amazing, but with the aftercare, don't skip on it. I was just. I saw earlier on Instagram it was a real. Some girl you know everybody's got this freaking ridiculous body Right. And I mean ridiculous Like. This is so unreal. And the girl she was like in a VIP section, she's, oh my.
Speaker 4:God, whatever oh freaking stomach and there's a, and people know. So they're in the comments. Like girl, you got fibrosis, like you need to, you need to. You did not go for your massages, Like all of that stuff, and I'm like I don't want that, I don't want to. Cause even especially cause she had, she looked like she had what does it look like she looked, like it looks lumpy, so it's supposed to be flat, and when you get light bulb they're going to miss a couple spots.
Speaker 4:They're not going to get everything, so you're going to see ridges. The point of the massages is to get all of that stuff out, right? So it's a lymphatic drainage massage. You want to get all of that stuff out of your body, and I was not playing with that shit. Nope, she was like it hurts. I was like, nope, you can do it harder. You can do it harder, it's fine, I do it. Get, get that, all that stuff out of me. I didn't want to. I didn't want to experience that. That was like one, because I went into this trying to feel better about myself, right, as we all did, and I was. I'm scared of that because I, my mind goes another way, right. So I'm like nope, nope, I can't handle something.
Speaker 3:I didn't even get to do all the aftercare because I paid for all that and I was bedridden for like three months. Pretty much I did in the beginning. Thank God I don't. I love this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, thank God. Well, they didn't do this heat. He didn't do like on the front. Yeah, he did. I know they're not. No, no, he didn't, he only did it on the side, on the side.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank God that, even though I didn't get all the massages, yeah, I guess the the drainage helped me. I had to drain for like freaking two weeks and then at that point the drain was smelling horrible. So, girl, I was so embarrassed I had to walk. Thank.
Speaker 2:Who helped you?
Speaker 3:My sister was helping me with the drain at first because it you know, there there was one time that the drain look like I don't even know. It was like a whole bunch of tissues in that drain. It was terrible. I never seen anything like that in my life. I was like what the fuck just came out of me?
Speaker 4:I would think I'm dying the whole time, because that's what it smells like, that's what it smells, like that's what it feels like Like I went to visit her and she's like you want to see, and I was like mm-hmm, that's my girl. I'm like, yeah, I'm like how do you feel? She's like it stinks and I'm like I don't care, like I needed to see her because she, she needed the support, like she didn't. We already were going through this whole COVID thing. Right, we're all like alone. We got even closer during that time because we were all like it's a group of six of us, right? Wait, was it?
Speaker 3:only six. Yeah Well, it was seven, but one, one dropped out. One dropped out. Don't be a drop out.
Speaker 1:There's always one, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so like we would, we would video call each other every single day, we were on the phone all day, every day, and I feel like you know, if it wasn't for that, like she would have been even, probably even more depressed.
Speaker 3:Girl, I was already depressed because my father had passed away and then COVID hit and then I had the surgery. So I was like, what the fuck is? My 2020 was hell for me. Yeah, sounds like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a shit job. But this is why I like the concept of going out of the country, because that post op is built in Like it's just assumed. You're going to live in a recovery house for a week. You're going to have massages every day. Somebody's coming to clean you up, feed you, massage you. They give you no choice. They don't.
Speaker 3:They don't, they do not, and then you can't fly back right away either. So yeah, so you might as well, you know you yeah. Like our friend did, she did her surgery in Miami and she stayed at a recovery house and they were great.
Speaker 1:I'm almost tempted to go to Miami.
Speaker 3:You know what you don't hear. We're so together. You want another 240?
Speaker 2:I'm with it, I'm with it. Wait, wait, wait wait.
Speaker 3:I'm with it World support.
Speaker 4:I will go with you guys and I'll just be like no.
Speaker 3:I need a little lipo before the summer.
Speaker 1:Babe, I love you. My husband is so against all of this stuff. By the way, he hates it.
Speaker 3:But you know what we have to do, what we have to do for our own confidence.
Speaker 1:And I tell him all the time he's like you look great, I'm like that's great, that that's what you see, but that's not how I feel.
Speaker 4:So, that's the difference. Yeah, that's the biggest difference. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So it did help me, though, honestly, with the confidence, and I had my moments while I'm still insecure, but I don't regret it. It made me stronger. Good yeah, strong ass bitch. Not at all. I'm an emotional as fuck lately.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like you call me the other day crying.
Speaker 3:How she sent me a video.
Speaker 4:She's like who am I Shut up? Yeah, I see that she was like who am I Cry? I was like thank you for that, call me.
Speaker 3:I was like real serious what you're going to do if I cry and I'm on the phone with you.
Speaker 2:Losers ignore I.
Speaker 3:Hey, Johnny, you're supposed to be my friend. It's such an asshole.
Speaker 2:I do it now. But now she comes to me crying, I walk away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when they cry, it's like awkward, Like you don't know what to do.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was. I wasn't laughing at you.
Speaker 2:On the outside.
Speaker 4:And no, I was shocked, I was in shock.
Speaker 2:You were like this is 40.
Speaker 4:I was like she's real tears. There's real tears happening right now. Wild.
Speaker 3:Are you not a cryer? I don't show my emotions. Yeah, people die every day.
Speaker 1:They do die having surgery, though, and we still like sign me up. Doc, Take my money.
Speaker 4:Look at me, I was fucking. I see what she went through. I see people lose their freaking like, their tits and shit like literal loss, yo, like. And I was just like, yeah, I would definitely do that.
Speaker 3:Look at this guy. What's the comedian from? From Wallin' Out's girl?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:She died Me, that, jackie O.
Speaker 3:And she looks so good, everybody from the outside is like, oh, she looked great, she didn't need surgery. But who knows, you know what she? Was feeling right. You know, she had three babies. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Everybody be feeding me this dance story. Yo, your four have been like that's. You were a kid, you don't need that hairline shit, I'm like, but I want my hairline down.
Speaker 1:Wait, no, you not for real with that no absolutely, he's absolutely real Look they don't believe me, but I used to be here.
Speaker 3:I don't remember that you don't remember anything. But you know, I'm like no.
Speaker 2:I don't remember my background.
Speaker 1:Wait, so how long you gonna go? You see, you're gonna go like LeBron James.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not gonna be crazy. Right, well like usher recognition is here. I'm gonna do it like. A little like when it was before.
Speaker 3:How much do they charge for this surgery?
Speaker 2:Turkey. No they don't. Turkey dumb cheap. It's just like five racks for transportation, everything. They take care of you. You go over there. You have fun in Istanbul you eat like gyros.
Speaker 1:You have fun in Istanbul, not a doubt You're gonna be having a freaking surgery.
Speaker 2:The play coming back. Everybody just has like wraps on their head and shit, so they're doing this also in Turkey they're doing this for women that you know.
Speaker 4:You've over plucked your brows right and they're taking it from you, like your follicles from here, and they're putting it in your brows. But, bro, can I tell you that they have to fucking be like. They grow long, Ew Long.
Speaker 2:Oh, because it's actual hair, because it's actual hair from here, so it's not the same.
Speaker 3:That's disturbing. Yeah, it is so fucking disturbing yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so you could get a blow out for the beard.
Speaker 2:No, no, my beard hair from down here, right, because I don't use this shit. I always got to shave it and I'm gonna put it here and have one of those cool ass like thick beards.
Speaker 3:Just spray it on. Nah, that's it, you go off when you sweat.
Speaker 2:You look crazy in the summer.
Speaker 3:I'm here, I know.
Speaker 1:Wait, do you guys watch Bravo, which show Jersey Housewives? Oh, when Joe got into a fight and there was black shit all over everybody.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:What is that? And it was his hair make up. He sprayed it on.
Speaker 2:He had that kind of shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had like hair make up or whatever, and he's fighting and at the end everybody's like what's all this black?
Speaker 3:stuff. And then there's this. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I love Joe Gorgas, but that shit was what.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:No, I never seen the Housewives show. I love Gorgas. Yeah, I love them, I love them. I follow the wife Melissa, melissa yeah, I love her.
Speaker 2:The only shit.
Speaker 4:I've been invested was love and hip hop. I was heavy into that first Back in the day, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Not the same, but when Joe Budden and Cardi won that one, that one season was Joe Budden and Cardi. I think, jim Jones, that season was spectacular Like it was one of the best seasons I've seen after that. Oh, that was the best. Yo Ray, j's a major troll, bro.
Speaker 4:What you want, ray, j's a major troll man, what was it?
Speaker 2:So he's talking, he's staring at Safari, yeah, and every time the camera cuts back and cuts back to him. His hat was here at one point, right, that his beanie's here at one point. Then he has no beanie, yeah, and then it's here.
Speaker 3:What, yeah, editing? Don't be that person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they edit you to like whatever storyline they want to tell and you're agreeing to that shit. Yes, it's what it is. That's crazy and you can't. Can you defend? You should know. Can you go defend yourself afterward, like online?
Speaker 1:No, not really because of fucking paperwork Wow.
Speaker 4:All the NDAs.
Speaker 2:All right, fuck it, they can tell what you want about me.
Speaker 4:Wait, how long does it depend on the NDA that you sign right?
Speaker 3:Well, jackie deals with that all day, every day, all day, every day, ndas, NDAs, ndas, ndas.
Speaker 2:They sleeping though Yo Don. You're like in space, bro. I just saw you like staring this way. He's tired.
Speaker 1:He's tired for sure. Oh okay, I'm bummed out, he's gone. Gone, yo, fuck man.
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