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Unveiling Shadows: The Turmoil Behind Childhood TV and the Quest for Industry Accountability
This is a Video Reaction Episode
Could the shows that shaped our childhoods be tainted by the shadows of a troubled industry? This episode pulls back the curtain on the darker side of children's television, centering on the unsettling allegations against former Nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider. We unpack the experiences of Katrina Johnson, Christy Stratton, and Jenny Kilgan, revealing the gender discrimination and toxic environments they endured. As we lay bare these stories, the legal battles and their impacts on the young stars involved come to light, painting a complex picture of the struggles that persist behind the scenes of our favorite childhood shows.
The conversation takes a turn as we examine how our understanding of certain behaviors has changed over time, especially concerning pedophilia and racism. We take a hard look at the often-overlooked moments in kids' TV that, in retrospect, hint at exploitation, questioning the roles of parents and the industry in protecting young actors. Furthermore, the support and later regret surrounding Brian Peck's conviction is a poignant reminder of the fine line between entertainment and exploitation, prompting us to scrutinize how we approach the work of controversial figures.
Ending on a note of introspection, we delve into the necessity of wellness checks and mental health support for child actors, and by extension, accountability within the entertainment industry. We highlight the power and importance of movements like Me Too in giving a voice to those who have long been silenced. Each chapter of our discussion, from confronting the uncomfortable to advocating for change, calls for a vigilant and responsible approach to nurturing our youngest stars, and ultimately, the content they create that shapes our world.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, quiet on the set. Take six. I don't want to take five, because everybody knows that one. Shut up so we are reacting to Quiet on the Set. This is by Miss Mojo and it's a I think it's 10 reaction clips, so I mean 10 of the top clips from the episode. So we're going to check it out and embrace yourselves 17 years for today.
Speaker 6:Welcome to Ms Mojo, and today we're looking at the biggest bombshells from Investigation Discovery's four-part expose about Nickelodeon.
Speaker 4:Everyone knew it, from New York to California. So who would?
Speaker 6:we go to? Who could we possibly go to to complain about this? Amanda Bynes replaced Katrina.
Speaker 7:Johnson. I had less and less and less and then no time with Dan. So the new favorite had arrived, I was out.
Speaker 6:From 1994 to 1997, katrina Johnson was the youngest cast member of Nickelodeon's hit sketch comedy series. All that During her time on the show she was one of Dan. Schneider's favorite young actors and, as she recalled, in the docuseries he even considered giving Johnson her own show. But as she got older her appearance became an issue for the producers, particularly her weight, which they called attention to, I mean that stuck with me. You can't be the fat one.
Speaker 6:I still hear those words in my head to this day, with the addition of rising star Amanda Bynes in 1996, johnson felt she was progressively sidelined by her former mentor.
Speaker 1:She left the show a year later.
Speaker 2:Schneider would go on to be a significant figure in shaping Bynes' successful career which some people, including her parents, saw as concern.
Speaker 9:Maybe, at the time people viewed it as comedy, but I think now some people are very uncomfortable with the application.
Speaker 6:Gender discrimination and a toxic work environment. In the late 90s, nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider created a spin-off series to all that centered on Amanda Bynes. For Christy Stratton and Jenny Kilgan the only women in the Amanda Show writers' room it was a dream job.
Speaker 9:I had been in LA for seven years, and so it felt very satisfying that someone was going to pay me to write comedy.
Speaker 6:However, there were red flags from the start. Is that the fat girl Stratton?
Speaker 8:and Kilgan were paid to share one salary.
Speaker 4:You don't watch the documentary. I did, but she looked like her and along with other female staffers.
Speaker 6:They allegedly endured Schneider's misogynistic behavior, degrading jokes and harassment. Where did she go?
Speaker 9:I mean, it's not that I'm not like, I'm not proud of it and I'm also like thinking about it now. Yeah, it's like, oh boy, I just think of that poor girl and what she had to. You know, go through.
Speaker 5:Stratton was reportedly fired shortly before the end of season one Kilgan quit just days and so when she says this and she's saying I think about that poor girl and what she went through, it was almost as if she's saying she knew what she went through Because there's no like. There's no like real. Obviously we haven't heard from Amanda Bynes On that subject, but it was like she's like saying I know what happened. And that's because she went through it also Right and they went through something different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I thought she was just referring to him having her act like she's being sodomized while doing her part, right, like she knew. This is off and I should not be doing this, but I'm going to do it because I don't want to lose my job.
Speaker 5:Right, but also she's also saying like-.
Speaker 2:She knew more.
Speaker 5:It seems like she knew more. Because she's saying like I'm ashamed of it because now I'm thinking of what that poor girl went through, so it makes it seem like yeah, because a part of it is they're the writers, right, right, and at the end of the day, they know they can understand the content Because it's adult content, right?
Speaker 4:These kids don't understand that.
Speaker 2:We're adults, so when you're around, funny shit, which is what really Bothered me about this whole thing People holding on for a job Is A noodles to me.
Speaker 5:And that's. But that's the thing where your morals you have to go back and forth with your morals because they're holding on to this job, because it's their dream job, right? And how difficult it is for women in that industry at that time, especially at that time, especially what they, what they're going through and they went through the most shit because you used to make them do the craziest shit- they split, split a salary.
Speaker 2:And I understand one of his points where he's like women aren't funny because I firmly believe that, but to have them split a salary.
Speaker 5:And then you have me and Jasmine.
Speaker 4:We're not funny.
Speaker 5:I make you guys funny.
Speaker 2:So when they had to split the salary, I'm kind of like I get it, but I don't.
Speaker 4:We're splitting your salary between us, okay, 100%, All right.
Speaker 6:resume please To season two and filed a lawsuit against the production company for gender discrimination, ultimately settling out of court. The awful experience had a lasting impact on their careers in the television industry.
Speaker 8:I knew that this was the end of my career, so it had better be worth it. I could have better stopped.
Speaker 6:And to learn that it didn't stop, that it was all for nothing, sexualizing the female cast In the early 2020s. People revisiting Nickelodeon shows from their childhood have noticed that some content was undeniably bizarre, bordering on the explicit. Once I saw it again as an adult was when that memory came back. I was like oh, oh, oh, oh. It wasn't funny. It still isn't funny to me. Old webisodes of Ariana Grande went viral, showing her Victorious and Salmon Cat character, kat Valentine, attempting to juice a potato, among other suggestive acts.
Speaker 6:Former employees also noted that Schneider was instrumental in choosing revealing clothing for the young cast and writing adult jokes into the episodes. It was clear that there was a permissibility around these sexualized jokes with children.
Speaker 8:It was par for the course. Like strange things amused Dan, and that was just one of the things he thought was funny.
Speaker 6:Prior to Quiet on set, zoey 101 cast member Alexa Nicholas had already been vocal about her discomfort working on the show, Although she doesn't appear in the docuseries. They referenced Jeanette McCurdy's 2022 memoir I'm Glad my Mom Died in which she detailed the creator's verbal abuse and inappropriate interactions.
Speaker 9:He'll call people idiots buffoons, stupid, dumb, sloppy, careless and spineless. The creator knows how to make someone feel worthless.
Speaker 6:Inappropriate adult humor.
Speaker 9:I remember someone from Nickelodeon sitting with us and saying like oh, does this mean you know this dirty thing? And Dan was like no, why would you think? That's like tainted, like you've tainted something. And they were like okay.
Speaker 1:Kids programming tends to have some jokes and references for the parents, but dan schneider shows like all that and the amanda show often crossed a line first of all, from character names with slang terms to costumes with phallic imagery, it was clear to some people behind the scenes what the writers were alluding to wait.
Speaker 4:Why is this crazy?
Speaker 9:when I saw that joke hole, there's this weird owl.
Speaker 4:And the yo.
Speaker 2:With the pickle boy thing, and this is probably where I have a differentiating view on that. I don't personally, because I know when it comes to like kids kids find stupid stuff funny. I don't think I think us as adults, which is what they're trying to say like. Which is what they're trying to say, like he was sending signs to adults, exactly, but as kids I don't think them on the set saw the pickles.
Speaker 4:No, not at all To them. It's just. You know, it's funny and that's because parents weren't watching the show back then, it was the kids.
Speaker 5:So they didn't know what was going on. But that also goes to show like, first of all, the parents that were on set and they were allowing their kids to do these things. They didn't have the mind to even stop it because they were just like my kid is getting a paycheck, my kid is-.
Speaker 4:And I'm getting paid at the end of the day. It's so cold, right You're?
Speaker 2:looking at it as the opportunity. But I also think we have a different view now of a lot of that shit. 100%.
Speaker 2:At that time I'm not sure anybody was really taking it. A lot of that shit, 100%. At that time I'm not sure anybody was really taking it because think about it In recent years it's really where we're pushing this like yo. There's fucking pedophiles out there everywhere you go, whereas our moms were kind of like. My mom wouldn't let you go to your bathroom by yourself. She always thought somebody was going to rape you.
Speaker 5:That was just mom. I didn't learn a lot of things, but that was one thing. Like no, we went. I didn't go to the bathroom by myself, um, and not that. Even that was where her mindset was. I think it was, or maybe it was. She just didn't say that yeah because she didn't. She didn't ever say that to us, but she like no, we had to go in pairs and always you know.
Speaker 4:But also remember back then the sexuality wasn't really out there like that as it is now.
Speaker 5:Well, because social media wasn't out there and so it wasn't so in your face, like I think, that the problems still were there. It just wasn't so known you weren't so aware of it.
Speaker 4:Right, you had a Hollywood set. You had a freaking newspaper. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5:You didn't have computers and social media and all of that stuff, so it wasn't so in your face.
Speaker 2:And there was a good point where they talk about how it was some of these actions were taking place in front of other adults. It wasn't like they were hiding it, Like they were trying to go somewhere else to do the little shoulder rub and stuff like that.
Speaker 5:But it's so crazy the environment that was created that people felt scared to even speak up. I'm going to lose my job if I speak up. The one kid like his mom, like saw things that weren't right. Oh that was horrible. She spoke up and he lost his job and his spot and he, you know it, ruins, severs his relationship with his mom, it drives a wedge there and then he's, he's feeling this type of way towards his mom where his mom was just protecting him and thank god that his mother protected him in that way because he didn't have to get. Did he endure things that other kids didn't endure? Because he had to go through the racial part of it, the man dressed like a, like a brown fetus.
Speaker 5:Yo wild, no no no.
Speaker 4:Noseboy, we have to touch on that, but let's continue with this and then we'll break it down by episode.
Speaker 1:They all were able to pull a fast one and get away with it, and that's like a part of the joke.
Speaker 6:Crew members and parents would notice questionable jokes and sexual innuendo. But the environment made it difficult to express these concerns, especially to Schneider and as former cast members recall in the docu-series. They were often uncomfortable with the material, even if they didn't know exactly what the innuendos meant.
Speaker 9:I'm just looking back at it. It's just very strange. Frankly, it was just uncomfortable.
Speaker 6:Traumatizing on-air dares. Nickelodeon's on-air dare segment was essentially fear factor for kids. Challenging the young actor.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I'm going to say this, Even if it was not looking like a phallic object. If I'm a black parent and I see they do this shit to my kid, yo.
Speaker 2:It's definitely racial and I get when people say, oh, you could talk because you're not in that position, and it's. It's definitely racial. And I get when people say, oh, you could talk because you're not in that position, and it's true. It's true, there's a certain thing that happens when you're in the motion of everything. You're kind of under a specific pressure, where it's like, but all these other parents are accepting this yeah, why?
Speaker 4:why they didn't do that to a white kid okay?
Speaker 2:why they didn't make a white kid nose boy I'm like bro, that's or not even the nose boy.
Speaker 4:They're touching on profiles when they put him to be the.
Speaker 5:It was like a crack dealer situation.
Speaker 2:Oh, the other kid. Yeah, you know, they picked him specifically.
Speaker 4:No, but with this nose boy. What about when he squirted? And it was like a cum shot on the reporter's face.
Speaker 2:I think that's exaggerated.
Speaker 4:You think that's exaggerated?
Speaker 2:See, that's why I say like I don't have the same lens Because no, that was. I think that's exaggerating. See, that's why I say like I don't have the same lens, because I'm also and I will say I'm biased in a sense where I look at after the Me Too movement, I think people over-exaggerate every single little thing they could pick.
Speaker 4:But not that that was a real cum shot, that was, but it was snot.
Speaker 2:Right, but.
Speaker 2:But, I will tell you one moment that real life I lived and I saw it when I was watching the documentary and they replayed it. My niece and my nephew, aubrey and Jeremy they were kids at this time. I was in my 20s and I would watch all these shows with them. I got to be there with them so they would watch iCarly, icarly, victorious, like I know these now, penelope's watching them and I know these shows at the back of my hand. And there was a scene from the water fountain where the water goes like this to iCarly. And I remember in that time, real life, my 20s, watching that and being like that shit, look crazy. My don't even catch it, but I'm with what?
Speaker 2:we had to be like 14 at a time, jeremy. They're not looking at that, yeah that way and I was just caught off guard by that shit. So that that's why I said it's hard for me to say yeah to certain things, but there were moments where I lived it and I'm like, oh shit, that's a little awkward as an adult we see it now that other way.
Speaker 5:Well, we see it the other way because obviously that part of life.
Speaker 2:We have babies.
Speaker 5:Right, but I feel like with that, like the nose, like it's the nose boy thing, the nose looks like a penis, the snot looks like it looks like jizz. So that was yes, you can say, okay, that's just innocent, but truly we know that's not innocent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now knowing who this guy was. That's not innocent, which I didn't get as far as you guys. So you guys are going to have to clue me in.
Speaker 6:Anyway, back to the scenes to endure gross and scary dares on camera All that cast members.
Speaker 8:This wasn't so bad, and Brian.
Speaker 5:Christopher Hearn yes and no, because they're traumatized were counted moments on the show that made them extremely uncomfortable for themselves and their castmates. Okay, you could feel fear in their face. The peanut butter part Did you see that?
Speaker 2:The whole idea was that.
Speaker 4:What the dogs licking the peanut butter Yo that shit.
Speaker 2:Those were the moments where I'm like and he was saying this is uncomfortable.
Speaker 5:I don't like that.
Speaker 2:He'd be like I don't like the dogs eating off of me or something like that.
Speaker 4:No, it was like I don't mind it. He had peanut butter all over him. The dogs were licking him all over, yeah.
Speaker 2:And if you watch when they're putting the peanut butter on him, they swipe it over his penis. Yes, watch that shit again. Yes.
Speaker 1:All right, you would have to do something scary on camera and they got pretty scary.
Speaker 6:Hearn had one particularly awful challenge of getting peanut butter and laying down. Look at his face.
Speaker 5:He's mortified and he's pushing the dog.
Speaker 6:He clearly says that he doesn't like it.
Speaker 5:I don't like this. I feel on drugs.
Speaker 6:Sullivan pointed out just how torturous it could be with challenges that involved worms, dead fish and scorpions that's disgusting Young viewers would likely see this as funny, but for the actual participants it was anything but.
Speaker 2:I think that people kind of just look at us and go you made some money, so what are? You complaining about. And yeah, we collect our money, sure, but at what cost?
Speaker 6:Racist sketches starring Black child actors.
Speaker 2:My time on Nickelodeon played a big part in how I dealt and still deal with racial issues.
Speaker 6:With shows such as Kenan Kel. Nickelodeon always seemed to value and encourage diversity, but in the docuseries All that stars Giovanni Samuels and Brian Christopher Hearn said that compared to their white castmates, they felt quote overlooked.
Speaker 9:I understood the magnitude of being the token Black girl but I didn't realize how significant that was until years later".
Speaker 2:Hearn recalled a hurtful incident when a strange character required him to wear a bodysuit and someone offensively joked about the skin tone color it should be, but fearing repercussions, he didn't say anything back "'Whoever was doing my makeup at the time was kind of like hand on my shoulder, like it's gonna be okay, like don't worry about that. He just said.
Speaker 6:Samuels and Hearn also occasionally had to play into racial stereotypes. Hearn's mother, tracy, discussed a sketch that she viewed as racist, one where her son pretended to sell cookies but believed it was made to seem like he was really selling illegal substances. Jason Handy Allegations as a production assistant on Nickelodeon shows All that and the Amanda Show, jason Handy was a familiar face to young actors and their parents. Speaking in the docuseries, mj details how her daughter, brandi, booked a background role in one episode and began corresponding with Handy via email. She let me read it, and it was a very innocent email. It just talked about the shows that he had been working on.
Speaker 7:But what she thought was seemingly harmless progressed into him sending her an explicit photo.
Speaker 6:And while MJ didn't go to the police herself, Handy was finally arrested in April 2003 and charged with multiple felony counts involving inappropriate acts and material. Keep your trust in God and don't forget me.
Speaker 5:You and all the kids are why I work for free half the week I love you, jason.
Speaker 6:He pled no contest and received a six-year sentence. Shockingly, he wasn't the only convicted predator employed by telling on yourself registrate sex offender as a channel another employee was arrested in 2005.
Speaker 2:When you look at having, I'm sure is why this guy picked that pickle boy thing like I'm sure he was like I volunteer, yeah of course. And one thing I was saying about the, about the mom it, because I'm always in my head like yo, you're fucking crazy, I would never allow this. But when she came out and she was like yo, I wanted to like reach to police, but then I didn't want to be seen as a bad parent.
Speaker 5:Yep, because, well, you allowed her to correspond with this man. And why weren't you looking at all the emails?
Speaker 4:I don't understand why he was emailing the child and not the mother, if it's about work.
Speaker 5:And that's my thing. One thing, and I know Amir said this in our chat and I was like 150%. This is culturally they're not watching their fucking kids. They just let their kids do whatever with whoever. However, like fuck a paycheck, why are you corresponding with an adult, exactly A nine-year-old girl corresponding with an adult male.
Speaker 2:That's my daughter's age, but Penelope's about to be nine, yeah there's no reason for it at all. Bro, you think I'm going to. But again, it's like Amir said, culturally or I don't know if it's a Hollywood thing, I don't know. There is a great separation because none of us are going to be like. If I hear a voice on Penelope's Roblox thing while she's playing, I'm like what's that? Who?
Speaker 5:you talking to.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's my cousin. All right cool.
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Like looking at it, they're there like, oh, you're changing emails. Okay, that's innocent. But I also put myself in her shoes where it's like you have a certain confidence and I'm going to a child network. There's no way this network is hiring people that would be this way and it's ignorant and in a sense naive. But you also don't know Hollywood and she said it. Her mom herself wanted her away from Hollywood. So when her daughter, it was almost like she was compensating, Because when her daughter wanted to be in that world, she was like I'm not going to kill her dream like my mom killed my dream.
Speaker 5:Right, because you want to give your kid what you didn't have, which, yes, I understand that. But to what?
Speaker 4:extent. Yes, exactly, you know.
Speaker 5:At what extent? Because, I'm sorry, I don't. I, I personally think maybe I do think the worst at all times but I'd rather be safe than sorry. Exactly, I'd rather be safe than sorry, you are not.
Speaker 5:We know what's out there yes, even like going back to you know that one time that devin's on the On playing a game and it's, and it's. No, he was on the phone, a group like Phone call and somebody's Uncle or whatever. I'm like get off the fucking phone, bro, that person, he don't belong, talking to none of y'all, exactly None of y'all. Get off the fucking phone.
Speaker 2:So, and I have boys, so for me Like, and I know that it no, we have to stop that and I have boys, so for me, and I know that it does not matter with the gender, you got to stop that shit. It does not matter for me, and we already know Kids are kids, man Once a kid's exposed to that.
Speaker 4:it's going to stay on their mind Because they're going to become interested in learning more, like what is this.
Speaker 5:Think about the shit that we were doing at 13 years old, the shit that we were exposed at 13 years old, the shit that we were exposed to 11 years old.
Speaker 4:Shit. Hormones are raging. Yeah, and we had no internet back then, right I?
Speaker 2:was going to say we didn't have access.
Speaker 4:We didn't have access.
Speaker 2:Like we were trying every way possible.
Speaker 5:We were just in the bathtub To get our hands on some porn or some shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like ah, I remember, but these kids are just like on your phone. Yeah, uh-huh, can I get my phone back? Yeah, mom.
Speaker 4:So you remember when the cable box used to like, used to change the channel, used to have like a little second of porn, I saw a titty.
Speaker 5:No, yes, you know through the.
Speaker 4:That's what we had yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 7:Multiple child predators who worked at Nickelodeon. It raises some confusing questions on who to hold accountable Brian Peck's connection to John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 8:Hi, I'm not just a little boy but I'm also a trained professional who works here on the set. Of all that you can tell by my very important looking headset.
Speaker 6:Like Jason Handy, brian Peck was well known at Nickelodeon, though the acting and dialogue coach was much more involved and even appeared on screen at times. Kyle Sullivan recalled a get-together he attended at Peck's home where he found a weird portrait of a clown.
Speaker 1:Brian got very excited when I asked him about it. He flipped the thing around and on the back it said To Brian I hope you enjoy the painting. Best wishes your friend John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 6:He learned that the man had a disturbing quote pen pal relationship with John Wayne Gacy, a convicted serial killer who targeted young men Even at his age. Sullivan knew this was strange. However, he alleged that other guests, including adults and parents, also saw Peck's collection of letters and art from Gacy.
Speaker 5:So that's my thing, what do you mean? She said that they were in the crib and he was like come see this, because it's so out in the open.
Speaker 2:That's why I say it's kind of hard to miss those signs when someone's going like this to you.
Speaker 5:Right Showing you, literally showing you, if they have something to hide. So it starts with this yo crazy, but me right, or you guys, if I go to fucking Johnny's house and he got a fucking personalized picture from a serial killer, and then just the.
Speaker 2:The show's over, guys, the show is completely over. Your dream is dead, penelope. Yes, sorry.
Speaker 5:Sorry, because that's wild. Yeah, that is so fucking wild.
Speaker 2:Go play baseball. Devin, You're not acting anymore, buddy.
Speaker 5:100% 100% that. To me that was such a red flag that nobody, not one fucking parent, said this man is corresponding with a fucking serial killer and he's on set.
Speaker 2:Yo, that's why it's Holly weird. It is Holly weird Because a lot of these people don't know what to distinguish as creepy and weird or normal. Is this the industry?
Speaker 5:No, it's fucking bad.
Speaker 2:We say that we from New York.
Speaker 5:Right, and we're exposed to everything here. Yes, we are exposed to everything, but I'm sorry, where in your fucking mind did you think? Oh yeah, he's just corresponding with a fucking serial killer, he got a clown painting, that's fine the guy's in jail. What's he going to do? He's going to groom this man to do the same thing, because that's what they do. That's wild, bro. Maybe I've seen too many fucking movies.
Speaker 4:I love it movies, but they fucking.
Speaker 1:You know they groom other people to do their dirty work reason, please, and starts showing them to me. Your instinct is to give someone the benefit of the doubt if you've known them for that long, even in the face of like this, really bad sign drake bell was john doe.
Speaker 6:Have you ever told your story?
Speaker 2:publicly before I was my guy.
Speaker 8:I have never told my story publicly.
Speaker 6:Quiet On Set centered its third episode on Drake Bell, former star of the Amanda Show, and Drake Josh. For the first time, the actor-musician detailed the alleged abuse he suffered at the hands of Brian Peck as a young actor.
Speaker 8:You know, anytime I would have an audition, or anytime I needed to work on dialogue or anything. I somehow ended up back at Brian's house and it just got worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 6:The acting and dialogue coach, became a constant presence, managing to turn Bell and others against his father, who was his manager. Peck was arrested just months after Jason Handy in 2003. Due to his age at the time, bell's name was kept hidden and he was referred to as John Doe, something very few people knew until now.
Speaker 8:Fortunately, there was no therapy and was left to my own devices, which at that age probably isn't the best thing.
Speaker 6:Peck's famous supporters, drake Bell was in attendance at the day of the sentencing for Brian Peck in October 2004. Though he was relieved his tormentor was finally caught. Bell was shocked to see the amount of support he received from notable people in the industry.
Speaker 8:His entire side of the courtroom was full Full. There were definitely some recognizable faces on that side of the room.
Speaker 6:These included Growing Pains cast members Alan Thicke and Joanna Kearns, the Amanda Show crew members Rich and Beth Carell, along with actors James. Marsden and Taryn Killam In 2024, Boy Meets World stars Will Friedle and Ryder Strong claimed their letters were based on misinformation.
Speaker 7:You know he had us, had Ryder, and I write letters of support to the judge.
Speaker 1:And these are things we did, and again we did them because we were then lied to. We weren't told the whole story.
Speaker 6:But it doesn't change the fact that we did it.
Speaker 8:Beck pled no contest was sentenced to 16 months in prison and was required.
Speaker 5:You knew what the counts were.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think they did.
Speaker 5:They did.
Speaker 2:No, they wrote the letters prior to the thing. That's where I disconnect with them because I think they're lying.
Speaker 5:I think so too.
Speaker 2:Now come out and be like we didn't know what we were. Yeah, we didn't when they wrote the letters, no, but when you were. If you were at the courthouse and you heard everything they said, now you knew you should have said that shit back then. Like yo, we wrote these letters that we don't mean Right, not now when a documentary comes out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because they don't want to look bad I'm over growing pains.
Speaker 5:I feel like Pains, Boy Meets World.
Speaker 4:We grew up watching that.
Speaker 5:Those were our shows right Growing up. But I still feel like they knew when they wrote those letters, because it had already come out in the newspaper that he had been arrested and charged with these counts.
Speaker 4:I'm not writing you a fucking letter, bro. It was a character reference, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, let me tell you something. If you in any way think it's okay even if it's a family member or anything like that to write a character, what is a character?
Speaker 4:reference.
Speaker 2:Reference letter for a pedophile, or even if they think is a pedophile. I think your mother should be dead. No, she obviously gave birth to a piece of shit.
Speaker 4:Do your research first. If it's a person that you know, that you're with all the time and you know that they're in your heart, that they're not doing it, that they're being falsely accused, then it's okay.
Speaker 5:But if you don't know and you're doing it because, at the end of the day, you don't want it to mess with your career down the line, but then it's different and they're saying like parts of the letters, right oh, he must have been.
Speaker 2:That was a fucked up, that shit was he must have been.
Speaker 5:What is it? Um, he must have been, uh, under a lot of pressure, yeah, and there was a of temptation.
Speaker 2:That's why he's touching baby dick Like that. Shit to me was crazy.
Speaker 5:Excuse me, what type of pressure and what type of temptation is in your face that you feel like you cannot hold yourself back from sodomizing a young boy?
Speaker 2:You heard of that when they try to like gaslight him when he tried to say something. They were like, oh, maybe you're saying that because he's gay and he had to be like fuck.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they manipulated him and forced him and his son. He had to fire his father as a manager.
Speaker 5:He knew the whole time there was something wrong with this man. He knew the whole entire time. And for this to happen, and the one thing that he said was hey, if my son doesn't want me, you know, in charge of him anymore, then okay, but I'm gonna hand this over to you. Please do not Exactly.
Speaker 2:He told the mom straight up he is not to be allowed.
Speaker 5:Alone with this man.
Speaker 4:And the one thing, the fucking Because you're lazy.
Speaker 2:You're lazy. At the end of the day you're fucking lazy she was and I think another part of it. Remember, like he said. Even Drake has said at that moment like yo, my parents had a very like fucked up separation, right like they, so I can just imagine in her brain is something like and it's fucked up because she fucked her kid over. You're a fucking psychopath. What do you mean? There's something wrong with that guy. Yeah, he's taking your job. That's what you care about.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean? Yeah, they turned him against his family.
Speaker 2:It's terrible.
Speaker 6:Let's finish this up real quick to register as a sex offender. Still, he went on to work in Hollywood. This was crazy, sweet life of Zach and Cody.
Speaker 7:There are not enough protections in place to keep even convicted sexual predators off of kids' TV shows.
Speaker 6:Did you watch Quiet on Set? Let us know in the comments below.
Speaker 5:How about he only got 16 months in jail and then?
Speaker 4:he went on to work with Zach and Cody that were much younger.
Speaker 2:That Disney then went and hired him. So that's why I keep saying like there's something off with how these people vet who works there or some shit. And you keep at the end of every documentary they put the little thing Nickelodeon says we make they look into everything.
Speaker 4:You ain't looking into nothing, bro. Now you, now they have no choice.
Speaker 2:Well, they have no choice.
Speaker 5:Well, yeah, and they had no choice but to fucking to fire Dan Schneider Right. So he's not on, he's not in their network anymore.
Speaker 2:Once the damage was done, yeah.
Speaker 5:All this damage is already done.
Speaker 2:You saw Drake Bell. He said it. He's like I don't even know how to say it to this day Like what happened Even when he was talking what do you? Want me to say like, yeah, he's like think about the worst thing that could happen and and this was before he did his show.
Speaker 4:Can you imagine this was before he did the show, that this all happened?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's crazy and you wouldn't you would have never thought that he went through all of that well, that's why his and even his well, his dad didn't know, okay, I forgot, his dad didn't know because he kept him out of it. But the mom is a piece of shit because he said afterward I didn't know, okay, I forgot, his dad didn't know because he kept him out of it. But the mom is a piece of shit because he said afterward I didn't go to therapy. So you, as a mom, think it's cool that you know all this shit that happened to your son. You were in that courthouse and apparently she did say something to them Like yo, she made a statement, yo, you're not getting your kid therapy.
Speaker 5:Not therapy. He didn't speak about it until now, not like saying I fucked up, because where is she?
Speaker 2:had a make you better tell the dad at that point 100%, 100%.
Speaker 5:The lack of accountability there. Because she didn't say anything to the dad. She didn't, and I think that because she didn't want to be the bad guy and she didn't want to say you were right, she kept, you were right, she kept it from, she was allowing him to keep it from her, from his father, instead of saying, instead of saying I fucked up.
Speaker 2:That's dirty work, yo.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you see how children who are sexually abused as a child, they go on to repeat that behavior.
Speaker 2:Of course my man's now learned.
Speaker 4:He was charged. He was charged With texting a minor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I didn't get that far.
Speaker 4:Yep, he was charged with texting a minor and I heard that he fled to Mexico after that because you know he.
Speaker 2:That's when all the Drake Bell shit, Because that's why. So Drake Bell after the show, because I know Drake and Josh, because it's Harvey and Jeremy. He did a few movies, he did his, and then I remember there was something and I remember Aubrey trying to tell me do you know this and that? But I didn't pay attention because that's it by this point.
Speaker 4:They're like grown, whatever. So he got caught texting a minor. They didn't find anything else, so you know there was no charges. He didn't do anything like physically, sexually, but it was like sex.
Speaker 2:The desire is there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right. And that's because of what he endured, right because your trauma, your, your trauma follows you and he hasn't gotten I'm sure he's in therapy now.
Speaker 5:I'm oh yeah, I'm sure he's gone through therapy now and he knows, like the rights and the wrongs. But all that trauma stayed with him for all of those years because he didn't get the therapy and he didn't, you know, allow himself to sit in those feelings and and and go through that and cope through all of that and the healing process.
Speaker 2:His mom didn't freaking, do that for him Shout out to his girlfriend's mom.
Speaker 5:Oh, she saw the signs.
Speaker 2:She saw them immediately Because you know, most people don't go that far Right.
Speaker 4:And for her to be like hey, come on, let's go talk, yeah, yeah, because she's seeing a grown man. He's not picking up his phone, he's calling like a jealous girlfriend, right, non-excessively, and he's just like oh you know, it's nothing.
Speaker 2:Becky got the house number too. I was like how the fuck is this?
Speaker 5:happening. How is it that he's okay? Calling the cell phone is one thing, but he is on some psychopath shit calling the house, the girlfriend's mother's house. That's a person that has gotten away with so much shit. Yes you got it that they feel untouchable, that's what the words on my mouth they feel untouchable, you can't touch him.
Speaker 5:You're making all this money. You're in this industry. I'm doing it in people's faces. All of these things, doing it in people's faces, so many things that this man got away with that. He felt that it was okay to call this woman's phone looking for yeah, and that he wanted to take him to disneyland and disneyland like no, I don't want to go.
Speaker 2:My mom would have let some motherfucker walk with me to the store but why?
Speaker 4:a grown man wants to take him to Disneyland, come on.
Speaker 2:Do you know how nuts that is? Like I don't know man. And again I try not to be that person because, like I said, it's easy in hindsight knowing what we know now to then be like I would never. But you also. I try to look at it like all right. Well, again you're in Hollywood. These people are telling you yo trust us with your kids. You're around them all the time. So you're kind of like they must have had relations with that pet guy. They were just like all right. The only one that kept getting that bad vibe was the dad. Like it's just like, was the dad.
Speaker 5:Right, you putting your hands around my son's face? Yes, but he was having with the kids, but it was the kids and the parents.
Speaker 2:Michael Jackson didn't do anything, so take that back. Oh, you mean the partying with kids thing? Okay, I got you.
Speaker 4:Jesus Christ, yeah, whatever you say, okay, so, oh, my God.
Speaker 2:You know how many federal investigations there have been and there's no proof. Silence meets you one Go ahead.
Speaker 4:Listen, this is not about I. I do love Michael Jackson. Part.
Speaker 5:He's not R Kelly, I don't care.
Speaker 4:I love R Kelly too.
Speaker 5:I don't know, fuck that.
Speaker 4:Music Fuck that, yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, man I can't Clean it up.
Speaker 5:You're right, you're right. No, I literally can't.
Speaker 2:You don't hear ignition again.
Speaker 4:The way that I Nope you know what I Not even I have deleted? I have deleted all of it. She don't even drink.
Speaker 2:Starbucks. I like Jackie, Jackie's kind of like if I don't fuck with you, I don't fuck with you.
Speaker 5:I don't fuck with you. I don't fuck with you Wholeheartedly. I have deleted all of his music off of my phone, my Apple, everything. There's no R Kelly there and if I fucking hear some shit I'm never got peed on. Probably, probably, probably. I know the six times I got peed on whoa, that's a different podcast right now.
Speaker 1:Oh so she was weird.
Speaker 4:Yes, like my kids have peed on me all the time, I've changed lots of diapers, yeah that's what I meant too so, asshole, as I was watching this, I remember like first of all I used to watch all that, because I think we all grew up watching.
Speaker 2:Yo, I couldn't wait for all that I didn't have cable, but I used to watch it in my cousin's house.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I remember that and it was just crazy Like watching it as an adult now. Yeah, so I was like watching my brother.
Speaker 5:He was just like, wow, yeah, like we didn't see this we didn't because, well, first of all, our minds weren't there like that right. And I remember like my mom didn't even let me watch Bugs Bunny damn it was so violent. I like your mom it's true, she said it was too violent, even the whole dropping the anvil on shit.
Speaker 2:Somebody had said that before.
Speaker 5:He was like a shotgun and Yosemite Sam, he was like you know, shoot me. I used to watch it like on the low, because she didn't let me watch it. So I was like why? My mother Like I think this shit is hilarious, right, but it's not. It is actually really violent. So she wouldn't let me watch things like that, but she let me watch all that and she things like that, but she let me watch all that and she wasn't like it's a bunch of kids, it's comedy, it's kids.
Speaker 5:It's comedy, it's kids. She wasn't seeing all that and all. Let's be honest, she wasn't watching it with me but all that actually wasn't even all that bad no, it got worse once he got his power.
Speaker 2:The iCarly's, the Victorious, the Young Girls, the Joey what is it? Zoe 101? Zoe 101 and you're like yo. This is pedophile nation.
Speaker 4:The shit with Ariana Grande, with the water oh my god, I felt triggered watching that.
Speaker 5:so I was saying, cause she was saying how she felt triggered and she was just like yo, that's like super uncomfortable to watch, right. And so I was saying it makes so much sense now to me, knowing how hypersexual she is, mm, because she's had like after after being on that cat in whatever show, uh, huh, yeah, yeah. So after after being on that show Salmon Cat, salmon Cat so after being on that show and she was on the other one, she was on iCarly, right, she was on.
Speaker 2:No, she started on Victorious.
Speaker 4:And then she oh, okay.
Speaker 2:She was on Victorious, the other girl was on iCarly, and then they got their Spin off together. Okay, cause they were seen as like the left, like Ariana Grande Wasn't supposed to be where she is.
Speaker 5:Right, the shine was on and shit like that. So and then?
Speaker 2:Maybe that's why she went that sexual route too.
Speaker 5:But think about it and that's what I'm saying. And then Zoe. After that, the other girl.
Speaker 2:I'm pregnant at 16.
Speaker 4:No, the second girl, the one who was speaking in the documentary.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 4:There was always one who was more sexualized. Her yes.
Speaker 5:And that's how. After that, where she was like she's dating all these guys and she's having these, these interviews talking about I love sex, I love having sex she says this shit, yes, she has, and for me, yeah, but she's also, she's older but regardless, you know now, baby, she looks like a child that's, yeah, definitely some lingering shit a hundred percent.
Speaker 5:So we don't know. We don't know what happened to her. We don't know if she would speak out. We don't, she wouldn't. Don't know what happened to her, we don't know if she would speak out.
Speaker 2:We don't, she wouldn't. No, absolutely she hasn't made a comment. I mean, I heard and I saw a video with Drake Bell actually, because everybody had a problem with Josh from the show not making statements, you know this and that and Drake was like yo guys, don't be mad at him because he's dealing with his own shit because of this right, because imagine that that's like your brother, like him, but why didn't it happen to me?
Speaker 5:yeah, and and you didn't have the trust to tell me that. I must mean, I must have made not made you feel comfortable, and but that's such a traumatic experience to go through, like I don't want to say that there's shit that happened to me when I was a kid that I don't, I still don't speak about, facts I still don't speak about. So I can imagine, like, obviously, being in a situation like that. You don't want to talk about that and you don't want to talk to your best friend about that, you don't want to even talk to your parents about that he was like I.
Speaker 4:I would pray that nobody knew who the kid was in the case that they have said because he and his mind, he's not gay, but he's allowing this to happen now, him, now that shit fucks with your head. That shit, you know.
Speaker 2:Because now you start looking, did I enjoy this moment Exactly, and what does that make me Right?
Speaker 4:Because everybody knew Brian Peck was gay. Yes, it was known that he was gay. That's what they used against the dad yeah. So in a sense I feel like maybe he just took it because he felt like he needed to do that for his family.
Speaker 5:That and also like how do you say that, how do you just outright say this is happening? And like he didn't say it until he had that breakdown, like he fucking broke down and told his mom and was, like all of this stuff is happening to me, like as a mother, I, I would fucking die. Yeah, I would die. I would be like where the fuck did I go wrong? What did I do? How could I have prevented this? And we don't know what, how she feels we don't so when it says sodomy but I'm gonna say
Speaker 2:what I said before, her actions afterward tell me a lot 100%, oh yeah. You didn't put the kid in therapy. You kept collecting checks Like yeah, that's why she wasn't on the doc.
Speaker 4:And the father was. She got her money. She's good now, 100%.
Speaker 5:She don't have to deal with her son.
Speaker 2:How many parts were there?
Speaker 5:That was four episodes.
Speaker 2:I was on the last part.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Oof. But um, I was on the last part. Yeah, damn, yeah, yeah, oof. And then Ariana squeezing the potato. Jesus Christ, did you see how much she was squeezing the?
Speaker 5:potato that shit was wild and she was like give me the juice.
Speaker 2:She even made weird noises too.
Speaker 4:Awesome, who told?
Speaker 2:her to make these noises.
Speaker 4:Yes, of course. Watching that now it's like yo, this was crazy. Did you see when she was sucking her own toes? Oh my God.
Speaker 5:Did you see that part?
Speaker 2:I think I did see a clip.
Speaker 4:She was like rolling around the bed with her fucking foot in her mouth and they were showing them like touching like some doctor on the show was like touching their kid's feet Talking about how soft the kid's feet was.
Speaker 5:It's so soft.
Speaker 2:He's like I didn't know, kid's feet were so soft.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:First of all.
Speaker 4:So then, and then you know many people out there with foot fetishes A hundred percent. Meanwhile she's sucking her toes on a bed.
Speaker 2:What about the fact that he would message them, say you're an idiot? Like out loud, yeah. And if you didn't say it, you had to say like Slut, yeah, slut, you are fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:Somebody needs to take that and just stab him up. I don't understand how shit like this gets. My thing is and I always say this because you kind of don't know if somebody's wrongly accused but if we have solid proof that somebody is a molester, is a rapist, is a pedophile, I think there should be a section in prison where they just get raped every day. That person gets raped continually, yeah, but allowed, because a lot of them that do have money. They get put in.
Speaker 5:PC protective custody. Look at Brian Peck first of all. He was in, only got 16 months, that's crazy only got 16 months. I don't even know because I didn't research it, but how much of that did he actually do? And in that time he should have been raped daily yeah, that's just how shit should be, and you should have enjoyed it, right.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I enjoyed it. We start using like a horse to rape these people. There should be shit where you know, because getting time for some people is like, well, it's okay, Because when I get out of here I'm going to touch a little boy dick again.
Speaker 2:Of course, like if I know, oh shit, I'm going to get raped by I don't fucking know a horse, like really some crazy shit. You put fear in people's hearts and I know people are like, oh, you can't do the eye for an eye, shit. But there's countries where yo, you steal, you get a finger chopped off, Right why? Because not everybody that sees you knows he's missing a finger. He did wrong, yeah, and you live with that shame, exactly.
Speaker 2:So it's like who is it? I think Belize has like crazy laws and their crime rate is like it's like nothing this or like Aruba there's no fucking crime there why would there be if you know yo, the repercussions are great this shit about attorneys getting people off over here.
Speaker 5:There's like. It's like you go to prison and you're living in the lap of luxury oh yeah, because you can pay to get whatever you want.
Speaker 4:Yes, you can. Your people are still like pay for protection. You pay for. Yes, yeah, they have businesses in there like they be hustling I've seen.
Speaker 5:I've seen the way that they they have the prison system and I'm like bro. And then the one, the prisons that don't have that, and people are like, oh, they're so inhumane, they're not fucking humans, they're fucking animals. They should live like fucking animals. Line them all up, shoot them, fucking off and get over it. You seen the president of El Salvador.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what he's doing to clean up the MS-13 shit, that motherfucker crazy. You got tattoos on your face. You're going to jail. Really he's like I don't got time for that shit, like that MS-13 shit when they're making his country crazy yeah. So he has them living like animals.
Speaker 4:If you're.
Speaker 2:MS-13, you're in there like an animal. They don't feed you, they fuck you up Like he and like the world is having an issue with it. Like this is inhumane. And he's like fix my country then, Cause that's my job. And now he's doing the whole Bitcoin thing Like I think he's a progressive president.
Speaker 5:I do too. I think he's great.
Speaker 2:There are certain points, there are certain shit that just has to take place and, like I said, if you're a pedophile, you should be molested, raped. Everything possible should happen.
Speaker 4:What is that thing that they do when they I think they don't chop their thing?
Speaker 5:off, but they castrate, them, castration. I think that that's great.
Speaker 2:You could castrate them. If you do it in cold blood, I'm fine with it, yeah, but this surgical shit put their dick and balls right on the fucking table and hack it right. The fuck off or they take like little weights the way this mind of mine works.
Speaker 5:I got lots of things that we could do here this is.
Speaker 1:It's too soft. This system is crazy. It is.
Speaker 4:And that's why I mean maybe now, after Everybody's speaking about it and all these movements, now people are more it's easily like, it's easy to talk to and bring it out more it is.
Speaker 5:However, how about we talk about how they're trying to make them More humane and talk about how that's a oh, it's just a desire.
Speaker 2:It's just a desire. It's just a desire. You don't see that shit. This is like a sexual preference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a sexual preference.
Speaker 5:They were trying to put them as one of the fucking alphabets.
Speaker 4:You know that's the no way.
Speaker 5:Plus plus, plus, plus plus. You know they're trying to put them in there. And how about fucking? No, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 4:Like. I sent Johnny a video of a little person twerking yesterday. She was a woman, though Like a grown woman. A little person twerking. Johnny's first thought is like he tells me he's like I don't know how any man can like this. This is like pedophilia, but that's his opinion.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's my opinion, and that's a grown woman.
Speaker 4:Imagine these men working on set with these girls and they have them in these little. But I've always thought that Kini tops yeah.
Speaker 2:I've always thought, especially when I watch any of these shows with kids because I've watched a lot of them because of my niece and nephew and I'm just like yo, not for nothing what would entice a grown-ass man to be like a pickle boy type thing?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Not a director. You're that right there. You're doing what you're doing. You know I'm saying, but what would entice these people to be a part of this and this weird thing? And that's fucked up to say because I'm boxing people in some of them are just actors. But man, this shit is proving that more times than not there's an ulterior motive, with a lot of stuff like and then the good ones get fired, like that guy. What was his name? He was like that. Dan Snyder just fired him one day. He looked Hispanic, he was bald.
Speaker 4:Oh, he was a producer on the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah that he would like protect the kids and like fight for their rights One day. He's just yeah. And that's what they do, because if you're somebody that kind of starts to speak up and that's the fear that all these people were living with. But we got to get to a point where yo, I get it, careers matter, you have to eat. There's always a way to make money.
Speaker 5:And that's the thing. So I was thinking about that as well, right? So what would I do? What would I do in that situation? I'm getting fired all day, all day, all freaking day, every day. I'm getting fired Because I don't know, how to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 5:I don't, I don't. I'll observe. I'm going to try to see this from all types of angles, because that's just how my brain works. But when it's wrong, it's wrong. Yeah, so how do you not say something? Yo, my man, I'm not giving you a massage, I'm not fucking giving you a massage.
Speaker 4:He would text these people who were working on two shows tired his. You know these writers on the show telling him come give me a massage. Did you see the one where he told the lady if you want $300, eat two pints of ice cream?
Speaker 2:Oh, and then she spoke up when he said who wants 30 bucks?
Speaker 4:And she goes are you going he?
Speaker 5:checked her Like how dare you.
Speaker 2:She's the one that got fired.
Speaker 5:And then she's like and then she's like oh, I wasn't saying it like that. No, I was saying it like that. And no, you didn't fucking pay me. Now you owe me $330.
Speaker 4:But remember they were in their 20s. This was their first come up Working on a major network, so they wanted to.
Speaker 5:Different times man Make. You know, Different times Age Right, because make you know happy.
Speaker 2:Different times age right because we are also more outspoken. That's just the honest truth. If you're at a job and I've had that because- we know we have rights now.
Speaker 4:We know that before.
Speaker 2:I knew I had rights.
Speaker 4:No, we did, but back then you're not yelling at me at my job back then there wasn't, you wouldn't talk about it, they wouldn't talk about it, HR, it was none of that. It was all just like you complain, you don't like it, leave. Now people know that they're protected by laws, so it's easier for people to come out and speak out about it early these women. This happened in the 90s, early 2000s. Now they're speaking about it 20 years later.
Speaker 5:Yeah, because now they're like, well, fuck this. And the Me Too movement happens. And now everybody's like, yeah, I went through, this happens. And now everybody's like, you know, yeah, I went through this, I went through this, I went through this, and this lady's, you know, she's suing, and then the Me Too movement happens. Then there's all these implications against him, everybody, all of this stuff is happening and not a one person is saying something, not one of you.
Speaker 2:And they sued her. I mean, they paid her to keep it quiet because nothing got resolved. She said it afterwards. She's like I did this, thinking something's going to happen afterward.
Speaker 4:Nah.
Speaker 2:Because, think about it, I'll give you $5 million. We're making $100-something million off of this show.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 2:Especially with syndication rights and all that stuff.
Speaker 5:And then you think about that too. Right Damn, $5 million sounds nice. Yeah Right, I'll probably shut the fuck up for $5 million.
Speaker 2:No, I'm sure there was a clause where you couldn't speak for a couple of years. Now she's probably being able to say something.
Speaker 5:Of course, everybody has an NDA. Yeah, your NDA is expired and now all of this stuff is coming out.
Speaker 4:But now let's talk about Amanda Bynes. Oof, that one was the most Like triggering for me, because her parents Really just they were two BFs, didn't care.
Speaker 2:I saw this and I was like Wait, what's going on here? Those are not her grandparents.
Speaker 4:No, those were her parents and they really they didn't care, they were just looking at her Like money. Yeah, you know money tool.
Speaker 5:So I'm wondering. So what's the girl's name that was before Amanda Bynes, zoe 101?
Speaker 2:No no, no, no. The girl that she took a place.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I forgot, she said she's Amanda.
Speaker 2:I look girl, she's hot now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't know that that was the same person. Yeah. I was looking at her, I was like who was she?
Speaker 5:But then when they played In the first episode, she was saying that she would be alone with him and you know she would be doing all these things with him. Nobody stopped that from happening, right? But she didn't say that he did anything to her.
Speaker 4:No, because remember he was calling her the chubby girl too.
Speaker 2:Well, after no. But this is where the Amanda Bynes thing to me is a little bit off and it's fucked up. But I'm going to be honest, I can't take Amanda Bynes at full surface for what she's saying, Because we have to understand that she has a mental illness. Could have been caused by that story of her getting pregnant Cool. But there's no fact behind it. So that's kind of where it gets. You could tell he's a creep. But if nobody else has a storyline of like yo dan touched me or anything because they said he spent quiet time with them, he liked to hug, he was a weirdo at the end of the day right but she's the only one, and that's why I think it's her story's tough for me I don't know.
Speaker 4:I I think that it did happen because the kid.
Speaker 2:Shit was right like you see it in plain sight, no.
Speaker 4:She was. They were manipulating her To get emancipated from her parents so she can go live with him and his wife.
Speaker 5:So I think that something definitely did happen which I didn't even know that he was fucking married. I must have missed that part.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. Well, he was married. He was married. I don't know who his wife was. That they haven't spoken about publicly, can I?
Speaker 5:I want to know Dan Schneider's wife. Dan Schneider's wife. I'll look it up, but her name was.
Speaker 3:Katrina Johnson.
Speaker 5:His wife.
Speaker 4:Oh, the girl, the girl who.
Speaker 5:Amanda replaced. Yes, so look up who Dan Schneider's wife?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Okay, katrina gets replaced by Amanda Bynes. So her story is kind of the same in the sense where she was alone with Dan Schneider, but she never said that he was inappropriate with her behind closed doors, right, I'm? I'm not going to say that it didn't happen to Amanda, right, because sometimes you just do it for that person. Yeah, she could have been the one that he liked Like. Like oh shit, you know he didn't think that way with Katrina because he didn't feel that way towards her, but he had a really crazy liking to Amanda. You could tell there was a major difference in connection. So I'm not going to say that it didn't happen.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying it didn't either. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I can't take it at face value because there's a lot more that comes into play. Again, I'm not saying it didn't Like who the fuck knows?
Speaker 4:For her to say that she had to have an abortion at 13.
Speaker 2:There must be proof out there from it.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But honestly the way that she has spiraled out of control. I believe it. I believe it Because, look, remember, we went to the women's retreat, the women's thing, yeah. And when that person said he was telling me, I'm going to be this big, I'm going to run this whole thing and I'm going to be the top cream of the creme, that shit, all of that, he promised me all of this and I did these things for him because I felt like I needed to do that, because he was manipulating my mind, right? Same thing with Amanda Bynes. She's being groomed. Yes, he's grooming her. She's young. They were in a hat tub together. Did you see when they were in the hat tub? Yeah, it's on camera. Yeah, that's crazy. And then at one point she's on him like cuddling on his arm and her breast is rubbing on his arm. As a grown man, if a 13 year old girl is on your arm like that, you're going to be like okay.
Speaker 5:Right, yeah, Because you would have the mind to say yeah this is not okay, right. But it's not that it's not uncomfortable for him.
Speaker 4:No, he was loving it and he groomed her and I believe that he manipulated her mind to say, hey, let's get emancipated from your parents now and you come live with me and my wife, because that's on the record.
Speaker 2:Yeah no, all that stuff. Like I said, I can say yes to Her pregnant at 13 thing. I just can't, because I can also look at it as Yo Amanda could be this fucked up Because her old ass dad was a pedophile or a weirdo.
Speaker 4:Did she say her father touched her too? She made a claim to him. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Her father and dad were super buddy-buddy.
Speaker 2:He could have been. Yeah, sharing her Could have, but it's a lot of coulda-woulda.
Speaker 5:And that's, oh my god, the way that happens.
Speaker 2:And maybe that's when you know when her parents filed the conservatorship Sorry we're from Brooklyn.
Speaker 4:Conservatorship, is it? But anyway, because she was trying to go live, get emancipated and live with Dan and his wife and they would have no access to her money after that.
Speaker 2:I want to know his wife. What the hell is she part of it too? Then If again, if he was doing that.
Speaker 5:I thought that too, because how are you okay with this? How are you okay with your husband trying to get a? She was 15 at that time, yeah, 15. She was 15, trying to get emancipated from these people. Like, first of all, you have to see, you could see the connection between people. I read body language. I'm looking at you, I'm looking at your eyes, I look at where they wander. I see how close you get to a person.
Speaker 4:If a 15-year-old girl is rubbing on my man giving him a massage, I'm smacking her hand off. Listen, let me tell you something?
Speaker 5:No, I'm smacking her, and her too, because there have been times In my life. What are you?
Speaker 1:doing.
Speaker 5:There's been times in my life when there was a young girl In my house Around my man, and I was like I don't like this. This gotta stop, oh yes.
Speaker 2:I don't even, yo, let me tell you straight up, I don't even like being In the room alone With my nieces, right, and these are my nieces, these are my nieces, these are my babies, right, right, and I'm just like this is not it? Boom, boom, boom. Let's get out of this room, let's go over here and I'm still Johnny. Everybody loves me, and I know. But nah, because, no matter what I think of what is this message? What's the message going to be to my niece?
Speaker 5:of that message, because you have to stop that at that point, right. You have to say this is not okay and you're teaching that to them.
Speaker 2:I've had that conversation with my nephew when he was like seven. I'm going to say and I forgot what it was, and I was like yo, let me tell you something, bro, you don't sit on nobody's lap Not me, not your father, not an uncle, not nobody else. Like, it's cool, I'm theo, we'll hug you, I hug you, I kiss my nephews, you know, I mean it's cool, but there's certain things. Don't go to the bathroom alone with anybody, because and and I even said it with women, right, it doesn't matter who it is, anybody. Older people have weird shit to them. As a parent, our job is to always make a parent and an uncle and aunt. So don't be out there like I don't have kids. If you're an uncle, an aunt, a godfather, a fucking older brother, your job is to teach them, not creep them out. But sometimes, yeah, I'd rather creep them the fuck out than them be caught a victim of some shit like that because they didn't know.
Speaker 5:Yeah, because I even, like just that made me think about, like, what you're saying with the gender roles. So is he still?
Speaker 3:with the wife yeah, yeah, they've been married since 2002. That's crazy. So it's funny how this happened. So the Amanda Bynes show ended in September I think it was September 1st, I saw it somewhere there September something 2002. Dan married his wife in 2002. And then, I guess after that, they started what I Like About you with Amanda. That lasted in 2006.
Speaker 4:Around. That time is when she wanted to get emancipated to go live with him and his wife. Right, his wife was probably in with the shits, yeah because they're fucking weird. Amanda was a beautiful girl, yes, before she went crazy and did all this stuff to herself All that personality.
Speaker 5:All that character. She was a real comedian. She was so natural, genuinely funny.
Speaker 2:Now, if you're like, yeah, women are not funny, they're little girls funny johnny cut it no, I mean I mean on on a overall basis. You guys aren't funny. It's like I always tell my little sister I used to always I'm like yo. No guy finds you funny. They want to sleep with you. All right, you're not fucking funny. You can do funny things. I think I'm funny at they want to sleep with you.
Speaker 4:All right, you're not fucking funny. I think I'm funny.
Speaker 2:I think I'm fucking funny. I think I'm funny At times you can be. But you're not overly funny to the point where somebody's going to be like ha ha, yo man, this girl's funny. It's not going to happen unless they try to smash. Thank you, Girls, Sorry.
Speaker 3:No, he's not wrong, I hate you both.
Speaker 5:No, he's Look at Tiffany.
Speaker 3:Haddish. It's not even like An emotional thing. Tiffany Haddish is funny.
Speaker 2:It's men's always trying to Sleep with you, yeah, so if you see a joke and a fake laugh and you guys are giving us a small portion Like Zarna's funny as fuck Zarna's funny. But you can't compare every other girl to Zarna. You guys are okay, but I'm talking about funny. Funny, that's a male pocket.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's your opinion.
Speaker 5:Whatever?
Speaker 4:Listen, I'm funny.
Speaker 5:I think I'm funny. I think you guys are funny in social settings yeah however, I know that I'm that's not my personality right, but that's not my personality right. I'm aggressive we know. I'm funny, I'm, I'm, I'm passionate when I speak. I'm funny is not the first thing that happens with me?
Speaker 5:no, funny is not the way in passion yes, I'm, I'm talking and I'm very passionate when I speak, but funny is not the way it's. Passion yes, I'm talking and I'm very passionate when I speak, but funny is not the first person thing. However, I do think women are funny and I think you're full of shit. Both of you even if it's, you know, men just want to sleep with you yo, you're not that funny man and me knows.
Speaker 2:I've told you that multiple times in your life. Go ahead.
Speaker 4:Johnny's funny though, johnny, you are funny. You're funny all the time.
Speaker 2:Is this a trick? I don't know anymore.
Speaker 4:No, no, you are, you are naturally funny, yo Cause.
Speaker 2:Then I say something.
Speaker 4:It's like you know, because that makes up For other things.
Speaker 2:I knew it. I knew it, I got a lot of making up to do.
Speaker 4:But you know I was speaking to Don the other day.
Speaker 2:He thinks I'm funny. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4:I guess so.
Speaker 2:No, I know, so he told me.
Speaker 4:He did yeah, okay well.
Speaker 2:He said yo, you mad funny, you funnier than my girl.
Speaker 5:Anyway, okay.
Speaker 4:So he was talking about when he worked at Universal and we can ask him about it when he comes next week.
Speaker 2:And it was one funny girl To the hundred funny men no, and we can ask him about it when he comes next week. And one funny girl To the hundred funny men no, that these women Used to bring their he's so annoying.
Speaker 4:These women used to bring their kids Like up, like to try to get them, you know, signed or whatever, and they would offer him Sexual advances Like if you take care Of my daughter so they're making Sexual advances.
Speaker 2:To get their kids on.
Speaker 4:To get them an opportunity.
Speaker 2:yes, yeah, not putting their kids, no, but the parents were doing it. No, no, no.
Speaker 5:The parents are offering sexual.
Speaker 2:No, because I would do it too. I sleep with all the women that want to put my kid on.
Speaker 3:Wow, so now you can talk about R Kelly.
Speaker 2:Wait, what'd he do?
Speaker 4:Nothing, no, nothing, no. You just did a part. Nothing new, but it's.
Speaker 3:What they were talking about, like the parents Would actually bring.
Speaker 5:The kids to him yes, knowing what they know. Yes and Okay, great point.
Speaker 2:Fame and fortune are dirty. I'm here to help you guys. No, you know what?
Speaker 5:No, no, no, it's 100% true. You're right, because with the Whole R Kelly thing, with these Parents Because I'm not going to say moms, I'm going to say parents, because those fucking dumb ass fathers too, and one of them was a preacher or something.
Speaker 4:You said that with extra passion.
Speaker 2:Like when you started talking about dads, you made it worse.
Speaker 5:Like can you just say parents and keep it apparent and I'm going to admit this the fathers are supposed to be the protector, and that's why I say that a little bit, with a little bit more emphasis yeah. Because the moms can be brainwashed, right? Women Especially.
Speaker 2:R.
Speaker 5:Kelly, right, I'm not saying listen.
Speaker 1:He was the top of the top, strong, independent women here Right. Here's the.
Speaker 5:Pied Piper yes, he was the fucking Pied Piper.
Speaker 2:Yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 5:He named himself that shit and he's luring little kids. 100% that motherfucker's sick Talk about how you tell on yourself Right, how you tell on yourself, but as parents and these dumbass Fucking parents, right, cause as a whole, as a unit, you're a mom and a dad. One of you had the freaking, had to have the wherewithal To even think. Maybe I shouldn't allow.
Speaker 2:She's right, cause a lot of them they weren't coming from Single parent households.
Speaker 4:Right, no One of the main girls. Her parents were pastors. How are you so fucking dumb, bro? You know what R Kelly sings about. Hello, seems like you're ready.
Speaker 5:First of all, she also has. Let's talk about that's it. That's the only non-sexual. Let's talk about how, at 13 years old yes, I freaking lost my virginity At 13 years old, you, yeah, oh. We won't speak about that in its entirety. Yeah, that 22 year old but core memory he was not 22. Stop it, he was 17, but whatever.
Speaker 6:Okay.
Speaker 5:But core memory Was the song playing R Kelly Seems like you're ready.
Speaker 2:No one understands R Kelly so much.
Speaker 5:No, it's not that only. That's crazy. It's not that only. But like have you seen Surviving R Kelly? Yeah, have you seen that shit?
Speaker 2:And these dumbass.
Speaker 5:Fucking parents. They fed him their children.
Speaker 2:I mean, they try to Get them back too.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but you're A fucking idiot bro. Yeah, I know you let it happen.
Speaker 4:But listen these young girls. They're so easily manipulated because their minds are still forming. Oh, 100% you know I was 16 in love with a 22 year old. At the time, you couldn't tell me nothing, Right?
Speaker 4:Now looking back, I have a 19-year-old daughter. You think I would have let her do the same thing. Hell, no. And it wasn't because my parents let me, it was because I just did what I wanted to do. I ran away, I left the house. I was like I love him and that's it Right, because we thought that we knew everything.
Speaker 2:Women in their 20s and early 30s. You guys still have bad radars. A hundred percent, it's true. I'm not being a dick.
Speaker 5:I've made some really fucked up mistakes. Of course, trust me, I look back and I'm like can we go back to when I was 14? Yeah, I would have crossed the street, walked the other way. I shouldn't have talked to that guy. I shouldn't have talked to that one. Fuck you, myspace, because I wouldn't have met that one. You know like, trust, trust me, I understand Kids are.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I have a question from the audience. This just came in actually through the Patreon. They said so all of those tuned in live. Thank you so much. What show would R Kelly?
Speaker 4:and Dan Snyder create. Wow, this is a sick joke. Remember that show Girls Gone Wild.
Speaker 2:Little Girls Gone Wild.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, sorry, it's her fault, man, she fed me. No, seriously, girls gone wild. You used to see the clips and it was like it was wild, made for tv porn.
Speaker 2:Yep, like you, people want to buy those always wanted to buy those tapes when I was a kid, you know kids edition it was like freak nick the hell Bang school bus.
Speaker 4:Freaknik Bang school bus. Freak Freak team. Yeah, seriously, that's how it was. Nickelodeon Freak, like Freaknik, has a new documentary On Hulu. That's what was going on, freak team Nick.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's the Okay. I thought this was a real thing. No, no, no, it's not real, but Okay yeah.
Speaker 4:Seriously, I was like yo, what the fuck happened right now, no, like thinking about the shows that R Kelly would create A freak Nick.
Speaker 5:TV With Dan Schneider fucking producing yeah.
Speaker 2:Nah, you remember when he was on stage one day literally telling like this woman, like you're coming home with me, yeah, and the girl was mad young, do you?
Speaker 5:have your passport ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was like 19, I think.
Speaker 5:I can't even. It's singing, making this a fuck With the fucking background singers.
Speaker 2:Adlib Yo listen, fame is dirty, it's wild when we get famous guys watch and take care of me. Please Don't let the devil fucking get in my back.
Speaker 5:I'm going to be like no, no, no don't do that.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ and be like I'm gonna smack you in your big ass forehead and I'm gonna be like absolutely not it doesn't matter that she's 70, she's crazy, johnny wants you for your money.
Speaker 4:Damn, stop it with the 70s for your money, nah, man.
Speaker 2:Nah, this shit is sick man.
Speaker 4:This is a sucky, but there's so many parts of that of that documentary that I was watching and I'm just like it's crazy, like even Victorious that show came out kind of later on right, and she was a little older. Yeah, she was a little older High school age. There was a part that they showed when they were like do you want to get smacked in the face with a sausage?
Speaker 5:Oh yes, sausage on a stick, and the girl's like, yeah sure and she was like no, you're supposed to say no, like cause, so you could see the, the. It's like the, the good, the good angel and the devil on your shoulder right cause.
Speaker 2:That girl was the goth girl, the one that says sure yeah.
Speaker 5:So it's like it's like the toying with the the. Should I do this? Should I not? Is this okay? Is this not okay?
Speaker 2:I think more people need to come out, especially if you were involved in Nickelodeon at that time and you still just hear just like. That's why I said they got mad at Josh a little bit but Drake backed him up.
Speaker 5:Let's talk about how they need to make one for Disney.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you know, even like, when you think about All these other stars, like Zoe 101, britney Spears, jamie Lynn Spears.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she's a. She had a daughter at 16 and she was not All there either.
Speaker 2:Britney, that's their parents, though.
Speaker 4:By Aaron Carter oh yeah, he killed himself. Aaron Carter was so Popular as, like he was the teen, all the teens wanted him. All the kids wanted him, of course, and he really had demons that he struggled with.
Speaker 5:And we don't know what happened to that poor guy Exactly. He killed himself, yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's because it's like I said earlier, that industry man, it just gets into everybody. That's why it's kind of hard for me to purely just judge them from my perspective and using hindsight because I know there's not being there. I can picture myself at 20 getting the opportunity to be on a show and them being like yo, you got to be the Puerto Rican drug dealer. And me being like there's not even drug dealers on this show and they're like yeah, but we want you to do that. And being like damn bro, this is my shot. And taking that role, not realizing yo, they're doing it like in a racial way because it's as a youth, it's so young, it's so hard to make these kind of decisions.
Speaker 5:It's so funny that you say that because I remember where my, where I was, my thinking was going when this, they have this kid playing the, you know the dealer, he's, you know, obviously just selling girl scout cookies, right, but the, just the whole idea of him being a dealer, right, he, they knew that it's wrong, right, but they're doing it anyway. And the way they get into character because he was in character, yeah, he was in freaking character. Yeah, he was in freaking character Going through it. So you know it's wrong, but you're still in character. All of these things, you know all these things are wrong, but you're still getting that character.
Speaker 2:Nah, yeah, you have to do it. It's like Drake said. He's like yo, I'm over here. After all this stuff, my only escape was being on camera, right, he's like when I'm there, I'm feeling like, alright cool, I'm good, and I would leave there and see the drugs. Alcohol, no therapy, it's the drug of fame so we have some questions. I don't believe in questions from outsiders damn liar production questions. I just told people to give us more questions so I'm just going to pick one right here go ahead girl.
Speaker 4:Do you think that there should be a service in place to have wellness checks for child actors?
Speaker 2:1646 I agree also I think even for adult actors, I think mental health and and I'm not using the card like everybody else.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, because we need checks and balance the uh nes Declassified podcast to watch, because they do have the checks now. Do all of them follow through and actually do their job? Clearly, we just saw the documentary right, so it should be one of those things that is enforced from the highest and parents are allowed to. How do you say, force it? No, not well, enforce it as well, but they can bring it up to an outside representative, which now is an internal investigation. It has nothing to do with Nickelodeon, because most of these companies, they will do their best to just cover up their own people, just so they don't look like shit. So, yeah, it should be enforceable, but with Nick and an outside source.
Speaker 3:So, it's two different parties that have no relation.
Speaker 4:Yep have a third party.
Speaker 5:That doesn't have the bias.
Speaker 4:As a parent, how would you react to what happened to Drake Bell if it was your child?
Speaker 2:I can say I would go out find a dude and kill him. I can say that all day.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think that I would be okay going to jail. That's what I'm saying. We can say that all day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that I would be okay going to jail. That's what I'm saying. We can say that I don't know, and that's the sucky part. Once I see more of this shit happening, I'm like there's no way. All these people are just scared and pussies, or whatever word we use. Sorry about that, guys. There's no way. I don't know what word to use for the new world.
Speaker 4:No, no, I know yeah.
Speaker 2:Chickens. There's no way, cause every time I see Some shit, I'm like Yo. Your first thought Wasn't let me go and find this person, because my blood boils Right, especially when they Were talking about the John Hardy guy, I think his name was, and that the girl that he was doing it to Kissing was nine years old. That's Penelope.
Speaker 4:He sent her a video. No, that was the other girl.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, but the one that he actually Did it to, that he actually did it, to that he actually got caught Put his tongue in her mouth and some shit.
Speaker 4:And she was like. That's Penelope's AIDS. What would you do, johnny? Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2:At that moment You're dying. Yes, there's no way.
Speaker 5:Why, why, parents, why, why, why, why, why Are you allowing, allowing an adult in the room alone, physically, with your child alone?
Speaker 2:There's no excuse for that.
Speaker 4:I hate to be prejudiced, but that's white Sounds about white?
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, it does, because I'm sorry, abso-fucking-lutely not. What's your interest in my kid? What's your fucking interest? I ain't even that. Why aren't you playing in the living room? Fucking interest.
Speaker 2:I ain't even that. Why aren't you playing in the living room Like yo, you want to come to the crib and play video games? Yeah, motherfucker, we're going to sit here. I'm going to watch you guys play video games.
Speaker 5:Of course, because my first thought.
Speaker 2:First off, it's weird that you're playing video games with my kid.
Speaker 5:100% Okay this must be some Supervised.
Speaker 2:Nah man.
Speaker 5:With my supervision.
Speaker 2:What would you do? You didn't tell us.
Speaker 4:Get somebody in.
Speaker 2:Call the cops. Yeah, that shit's crazy to me.
Speaker 4:I would have the streets take care of him. I think we still know the goon squad, you know Nah man. Or make a call. You know who? Yeah, handle this.
Speaker 2:That's so crazy. I'm taking you to my basement and raping you.
Speaker 5:You would actually penetrate the person Really.
Speaker 2:If you touch my kid, you're going to get it With a dildo, not with my thing.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's why I'm like.
Speaker 2:I'm so confused. Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do it. So to the point, and on some abusive shit.
Speaker 4:That you're not going to enjoy this.
Speaker 5:You know what I think about you know where my head goes. You ever watched.
Speaker 2:The Broomstick.
Speaker 5:No, no, not the Broomstick. Even worse, what's the Broomstick? What's that zombie show?
Speaker 2:Oh, Walking Dead.
Speaker 5:Right, remember this guy's bat. Yeah, with the barbed wire Neiman. What was his name?
Speaker 2:The barbed wire Neiman.
Speaker 5:What was his name?
Speaker 2:Newman.
Speaker 5:No, no, wasn't that his name, the bad guy. I don't know, it's been so long he had the barber.
Speaker 2:He'd be like yeah.
Speaker 5:That guy was like my idol man. I think that if somebody got raped with that, that would be great.
Speaker 2:That's what I was saying. It can't be some regular shit it has to be painful and then let I need you to suffer, man, I need you. How about You're gonna suffer If?
Speaker 4:you have no penis.
Speaker 2:His name is Negan, negan, right yeah From the Walking Dead. Yo, that was the man.
Speaker 5:And what was his bat's name? Cause his bat had a name.
Speaker 2:Lorraine or some shit like that.
Speaker 4:Damn. I feel like this show Was so long ago, lucille it was no, it's still on.
Speaker 2:Which is the crazy part?
Speaker 4:Who watches that? I don't know. I stopped watching.
Speaker 2:Lucille, lucille Lorraine, I'm close baby.
Speaker 4:Man, johnny, you're good, I don't watch TV anymore.
Speaker 2:She knew it better than me she watches TV.
Speaker 5:No, no, no. I watched that show Like until.
Speaker 2:That was my Penelope show.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We watched it while Penelope was born, because we had no time to sleep. Season 5 yes, that's when it got whack.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:After Negan's episode thing, and then he became like a good guy or something.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I didn't want to. No, no, no, I want him to be a bad guy. I stopped watching after he had the baby.
Speaker 4:Who had a baby After his wife had the baby and he died. His wife died and he had the baby.
Speaker 2:The Asian dude. Oh, I stopped watching, but they killed the Asian dude but the girl that was.
Speaker 5:This is just busy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, let's get out of here. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us this week. Pedophilia is never right, whether it's your uncle, your dad, your mom friend, anything like that. If you see something, say something. There's no money worth anything over a child's welfare. We'll be back with more next week, talking on the same subject as we dissect this documentary a little bit more and speak with a father as well. Thank you.