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Shaping a Future with Intention, Wealth, and Wisdom | Episode 16

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Ever wondered how to weave the threads of personal growth with the rich fabric of generational wealth? Unlock this mystery alongside us! This episode offers a treasure trove of anecdotes and advice, from navigating the parenting maze with closely-aged kids to instilling principles that make wealth more than a number in a bank account.

Step into the entrepreneurial rollercoaster with us as we share the inception of Skyton Academy and its contribution to the financial literacy movement. We journey through the transformative paths of our guests and hosts alike, revealing the intricate dance of professional and personal development within a family business dynamic. Steve and Mira, with their compelling backstories, shed light on how their decisions echo the importance of family and the power of a united vision.

Finally, strap in as we venture beyond conventional boundaries, discussing how virtual reality and numerology influence not only our perception but also the strategic maneuvers of big corporations. This episode isn't just about making wealth; it's a chronicle of overcoming fears, embracing change, and the ongoing pursuit of evolution—both personal and generational. Join us for an enlightening odyssey that might just change your perspective on life, wealth, and the invisible threads that connect us all.

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Speaker 1:

it's not to be played with. Yeah, it's to be respected. We pray over it before we set our intentions. You set the atmosphere, like he and I have realized that it's better for us to be in separate spaces, at least in the beginning.

Speaker 2:

Okay ladies and ugly men, welcome to parents uncut. I'm your host, handsome johnny emilio contreras, along with my co-host, are you going to introduce yourself?

Speaker 3:

No, because I'm not your co-host. You are a host of this show. Okay, I can't stand him every single time.

Speaker 2:

So we're not co-hosting.

Speaker 3:

We are co-hosting, but you're not the host, and I'm your co-host Anyway this is Jax with my co-host, Jackie.

Speaker 2:

You guys can see Jasmine is not here today. She's on a trip.

Speaker 3:

She is. She's doing something very important, and that's where we're going to leave it.

Speaker 2:

No, she didn't say I was doing something important, so I don't want her to get the important thing Jasmine. I was doing something important, so I don't want her to get the important thing Jasmine's in rehab. It might be important to some people, but I just want you guys to know you too can speak out if you're going through it First of all, she's not in rehab.

Speaker 3:

Do not listen to him. Why are you making things up?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

You're just mad because she's listening to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I didn't like the way she came up with the episode I missed and she's like oh, he's. I don't remember what she said.

Speaker 3:

You needed a mental health day.

Speaker 2:

And this is your mental health day, so obviously she needs more than mental health day.

Speaker 3:

No, she's having a. No, I think she's having a great day and I'm going to give her that type of grace.

Speaker 2:

Sobriety is beautiful. We have a special guest today.

Speaker 3:

Two special guests.

Speaker 2:

Two special guests. Yeah, I apologize.

Speaker 3:

Because you don't know math.

Speaker 2:

I don't know math, but I know science. And guess what? Men are always right. I'm kidding, it's a joke. It's a joke, it's a good joke. We have a very special duo here, a beautiful couple, my man, steve bayon, from sky and academy, and his lovely wife mira. Bayon, you, bayon, or bayon. How do you do it? Bayon, bayon, all right, same as the new jersey, new jersey, I don't want to say that. Do people say the whole time?

Speaker 4:

back same oh, okay and we live literally. We used to live outside of Bayonne in Jersey City, so it was always a running joke with my name.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say you get the reference.

Speaker 1:

Bayonne is a good ticket to our house, oh.

Speaker 2:

Well, Bayonne is like Staten Island. Oh God, I love that Community we don't have to have that conversation. First and foremost, how many kids do you guys have?

Speaker 1:

We have two. We have a 13-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl. Wow, back to back. So it is getting very interesting. They are 21 months apart, that is awesome. Ooh nice, but she just had a birthday. So I like the couple months where I can say they're 12 and 13 or like whatever you know. They like it too, that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

And man, a boy and a girl. See, I have a girl, so I have two girls actually, and I have eight and 11 months, so I have that big gap Like now I'm looking at it I'm like, damn, I wish I would have done it back to back, but the help that we get Penelope is kind of like just the built-in babysitter. So it's awesome. I love that man. The kids right now, especially the boys and girls, are they friendly? Do they have kind of like? Because I always feel like boys and boys are going to always beef or girls and girls are going to have a problem. But a boy and a girl, what's that dynamic like?

Speaker 1:

They love hard, they are best friends, friends and they fight hard, you know, and because they're so close in age and because he's the oldest and girls mature faster, it's almost like they've always been the same maturity level, you know. So it's like that best friend component, but we're still, you know, like that.

Speaker 3:

So no, they're good though do they tell each other about themselves? Because I feel like that's that goes on in're good, though. Do they tell each other about themselves, mm-hmm, because I feel like that goes on. In my house I have a 14-year-old and a 12-year-old. They were kind of like my back-to-backs, and they go at it.

Speaker 1:

They like to be our echoes. Like if I correct one, then the other one's like yeah, that's a hard one yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's good, it's good.

Speaker 2:

Now I have you here for a specific reason. Okay, you know why we're here, I think so.

Speaker 2:

We're here for the shift in generational wealth. That's what I like to call it. Okay, we've spoken about it before you, though my interpretation of generational wealth is a little bit different and I feel you have some of that as well. So just a little backstory. I was part of like a boot camp that Sky and Academy had. It's like introduction kind of, into the crypto world. And first call in. I'm excited. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm about to learn about crypto. It's about to get crazy.

Speaker 2:

We start talking about numerology. We start talking about numerology. We start talking about health, the things you put in your body mushrooms, like it got into a whole world. I'm like whoa, I was called to be here because that's big for me. Personal development is so huge.

Speaker 2:

Mindset Even, like you said, the things in that course about the things we ingest daily Sunlight. I see you talking to animals on your ig, like squirrels. Yeah, no, they come up to him and eat. Like that is so wild to me because there's chipmunks where I live and I'm always trying to get like relating to them. I can't, I guess my energy's off or they probably just get mad and I'm singing like alvin simon theodore, but it's just awesome and that was a huge thing to me. I was like wait, I know I like being here, right? Because before taking us to crypto, you said hey look, you could have all the knowledge you want about finances and all that stuff. If your body ain't right and your mind's not right and you're not realizing why these big corporations hold things. When they hold things, do things, release dates, you're going to lose in the long run?

Speaker 2:

Tell us about that yeah, give us some info. How did this all start?

Speaker 4:

All right. So I'm glad you opened up with the generational wealth thing, so it becomes a term that's thrown around right. And this is the part where and I say this with love. Okay, we as a community coming from broken home, and this is what, on top of us, being on this ride prior to this life, we've. We've been together before, but single father, growing me up as, as a child and you rarely see that I would say in the 80s, and we were both raised by single fathers.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's crazy so prior to meeting him, I had never met anyone who had been raised by a single father. If if your mother hadn't isn't deceased correct, correct our mothers were living. You know um, and that's what initially created the bond, and then you know from there but that it creates traumas, right?

Speaker 4:

So you get to that point. Now back to generational wealth. We throw it around and we don't know what it truly means, right? So the people that actually created the term, that actually abide by it, that have the rules set forth, that creates the generational wealth, always started with a plan and a vision, right? So when you throw the word around and you don't really even have a nuclear family put together and I'm not saying that you have to be mother, wife, husband, mother it doesn't have to look in the traditional sense. But growing up, I'm watching friends with babies here, babies there, it's a lot to manage that right and manage your time, as we talked about before this. So generational wealth is always going to start with who's at the head of this table, and our table is circular, so there is no head right. She really is in charge.

Speaker 1:

No, truly, as she should Right.

Speaker 4:

And this is when life started to really get good, when you understand the power that they harness. Yes, okay, so, um, I think generational wealth really does start with a vision and a plan. It's not something just throw around, and most people are working traditional nine-to-fives that are saying generational wealth, and generational wealth doesn't really have anything to do with money, so much. Right, it initially starts with, um, principles and morals that are set forth. Right, because it doesn't matter what generation you leave the money to, someone's going to mess that up if they don't follow the basic principles yeah, so we just look at generational wealth from a monetary standpoint, but money comes and goes, so how are they able to keep money flowing six, seven generations?

Speaker 4:

and we can, we can't even. You know. We're just breaking those curses now as a community because of technology and just knowledge and information. Okay, so we're not truly ready for that conversation just yet.

Speaker 2:

I feel the same way. I feel like there's a saying, like a meme, that shows I forgot who it was. But they're like. You know, hard times make hard men, hard men make soft times, soft times make soft men, and it just keeps-.

Speaker 3:

It's the back and forth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, and that's why I said, and I knew it, we're on the same plane, some of the generational wealth there, because to me it's like before generational wealth got to be currently rich and before currently rich rich, you have to be financially stable. Before that you have to be mentally intact with the right foundation. Because I've seen it, I've seen I'm very connected to, like the supermarket business, like dominicans all on supermarkets, like that's their thing and that's how they do their wealth. Okay, and I see the newer generation and they're just fucking it up like sorry for the words, but that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2:

So I'm watching and I'm like, damn, this is true, this is real. And it's because there was no, like you said, a set principles and value system at the forefront of, hey, this is how our family operates, this is our family name, the Bayons, this is what we believe, yada, yada, yada. And that's hard, like I think it's difficult because of what we just said, our backgrounds. So, for when I see what you're doing with Sky and Academy, to me that's like that's the importance of it, because it's like, all right, you guys have no foundation. Let's start with here, let's start with this foundation right here.

Speaker 3:

Which I feel like I was talking about this the other day, how me myself, I was explaining you know you coming on the show and you know who you are, what you do, and someone was like why? And I was like, why not? I was like we need to teach our children these things, right? And I, you know, gave myself as an example. I was like, let's say me, I don't have the right mindset for those things, right?

Speaker 3:

I feel like a lot of people have this fear of failure, but no, a lot of people don't talk about the fear of success, because in your life, have you ever had that figure put in front of you, a successful figure put in front of you, a successful figure put in front of you, right? So the fear of success is so real that you get in your head and you're like, oh, I'm not ready for this, right or not? That you're not not even that you're ready for it or not ready for it, you don't know how it goes and you're gonna mess it up and you'll. You're like, oh, I can't, I can't touch that. So that's a huge thing that people don't think about.

Speaker 2:

So having your mindset set it will take you there Business-wise. How did you end up? Because I'm guessing you didn't start just in crypto. No, what were you doing prior? To? What got you to the point where you could invest in crypto and do these things? Gotcha.

Speaker 4:

So we go from the start, so growing up first generation Haitian American.

Speaker 2:

All right, family members, dominicans, hispaniola.

Speaker 4:

So that's a challenge in itself. Yeah, Okay. So now we're talking about growing up American but having non-American parents or father in the household, and then there's no feminine energy in the house either. So it's all gas Right, and it's structure, yeah. So what I would give him is that was the foundation to the work hard Right, Constantly involved with his work. He was a blue collar worker, worked with his hands, helped people. He did everything Mechanic, you name it, General contractor basically at the end of the day. So he was a superintendent of a building and my father was always of service to people. So now I'm watching a man always of service to people, not only his children, but the greater community around him. So that foundation was set. So when we go back to principles and morals and again it wasn't even taught right, so we go through this all the time Most of the stuff we say it won't resonate until later as adults.

Speaker 4:

But the stuff we do right, the stuff they're watching, the nonverbal, that's the stuff that sticks with them. So I definitely want to commend him for that part. Now, the other part was when you don't, when you come into the American system and you don't know how America works, then you're going to think it's all hard work and nothing else. He never applied for credit, never had any of that, built the house from the ground up, that type of guy. So again, financial literacy is not a thing in the household, in most households, in the circumstances, Wasn't that? We grew up at? Schools aren't teaching it. So where are you learning it? It's not until your first year of college campus you start to see the credit cards and all the offers and I'm just like wow, they're just giving you free money, Not realizing that you kind of need a job.

Speaker 4:

So that's my first financial literacy lesson, but prior to that I was always doing something as a young kid. So I started off with a newspaper route, not just a regular newspaper route. I bought out another friend of mine who had a newspaper route.

Speaker 3:

And then I ended up putting it off. That's a businessman.

Speaker 1:

Right Typical Capricorn.

Speaker 4:

That was the first one, okay, right. And then again, when you don't have parents in tune with gifts, no one's there to really harness it. So then that newspaper route could turn into other things yeah right right as a child.

Speaker 4:

You come up and there's things around you so you figure, okay, that's has good margins, let me, yeah, they're making good money. And now you're on the left and the right side of the track. So I I grew up pretty fast, um, uh, my circumstances and again, this is like stanford, connecticut, so it's not like crazy street stuff but I was always ahead of my time, even as a younger child. So newspaper route turns into constantly, always working. So McDonald's security jobs, then off to college, keeping a job there, figuring out how to flip your what are those checks called in school?

Speaker 2:

Oh, the FAFSA and like uh, all the kickback yeah it's a good grant.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so you know, harnessing that money and creating verticals around that financial aid, right? So, um, another good venture I like to point out in college we lived um on a campus that was really small and after a certain time there was no food. So what steve used to do is he used to order poo-poo platters from the last Asian restaurant that would close around 11 o'clock. So poo-poo platters are usually big platters and I would break them down, and I know by two o'clock the whole campus is high.

Speaker 3:

They got the munchies and they're hitting up Steve Wow.

Speaker 4:

So this is how Steve's mind works, and I've always been like this right and I'm constantly bored on top of it. So I would create something great and then just you know that's wild and move on to the next. So how do you deal?

Speaker 1:

Steve has always been like 10 to 20 years in advance, so a lot of the early business ventures were too early. So watching him get frustrated with that of like. But this is a good idea. Why isn't? Why aren't people understanding and getting this to where we are now with Skighton Academy? It's on time for the first time where you can see like, okay, yeah for the first time where you can see like okay, and so I see that fueling him.

Speaker 1:

But as far as how I dealt, I went wherever he went. I realized very early on that this man had vision and he worked hard for it. He believed in it. He loves people. He is of service to everyone. You know he always had good intentions and a good heart. So whatever he was next, we always did it together. I'm more of the one that I keep all the business cards. I'm the historian of this whole thing.

Speaker 4:

That's where I play my part and the attorney. When Steve steps out of line a little bit, she puts the law degree to back on the law.

Speaker 1:

I'm a lawyer, real estate broker. I'm a real estate broker. We own a real estate brokerage here in New York, Like you know All right.

Speaker 2:

Now I understand. I kind of forget about that sometimes. I do too.

Speaker 1:

Until I have, to like check the kids or the kids like you know, I'm a full-time mom stay at home by choice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But sometimes you know kids being kids like well, daddy paid for it, that's daddy's money. I'm like, okay, let me school y'all.

Speaker 2:

You see this degree, then I have to pull out all my receipts of like this is how we have the brokerage.

Speaker 1:

That's under my license, Like you know, all of that, yeah, so for them to be able to see that it's a team.

Speaker 2:

But that's the like we just said. You can't just tell them. So watching how you guys operate, that's like 10 steps ahead of everybody else.

Speaker 3:

for these kids, that's a crazy foundation, and also including them in that conversation because I feel like that's you know where some parents are, like yeah, okay, and they won't go into depth and you know some people out there will think that this is petty to say to your children, but honestly I think it's a conversation that needs to be had Because they don't know what they don't know. Oh, of course, yeah, 100%. Oof. You just brought me back. That was a saying that I love. You don't know what you don't know.

Speaker 1:

Especially when we're doing something highly unconventional. You know I walked away from a legal career. It was my choice to say. I'm going to dump all of my gifts, talents, abilities, skill sets, my intelligence into my family. I'm not going to go work 14 hours outside of my home and be extracted of all of my energy, my time, my excellence to make someone else rich. I can pour this all into my family and I have, you know, the only. I always said when I was in law school, after first year I realized I'm not practicing law traditionally.

Speaker 2:

This is for the birds.

Speaker 1:

This is a lot right. So I always say I'm not doing litigation, I've done two litigation jobs. Guess who they were for. Two litigation jobs, guess who they were for, you know. So it wasn't in vain. I know that I went to law school to train my mind how to think in a certain way and I'm now able to give that to my kids as opposed to everyone else. So I always say I'm like that, that mouse that got the cheese but didn't get caught in the trap. You know, I got the little cheese and brought it back home and like, I'm done with that.

Speaker 1:

You know that's great.

Speaker 2:

How did you guys meet? Like what made like. So this is.

Speaker 4:

This is undergrad. So, going back to how you opened with what we offer at the academy, so we go into. It's not just cryptocurrency, it's personal professional development, health, wellness, and then trading is the last pillar. So I always like the lead-in, because it doesn't matter what product we give a person. It could be the same exact thing. You're gonna have different outcomes based on who you are, who you are and and that's it right.

Speaker 4:

So we met an undergrad in providence, rhode island, right, and I wasn't supposed to be there. To be honest, at that time I should have been done with college. Well, no, you were supposed to be there. No, I definitely was supposed to be there, right For sure. And that's where we initially met. So I had a class after one of her classes and she was an undergrad. I was a little older than her and so when she was coming out, I was coming into class and, mind you, I was the type of kid that would go half and half and be able to just get enough done to finish the class. So when I saw her one morning, I'm like this is, I'm staying in this class.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to class.

Speaker 4:

I'm not only going to class, but I'm getting dressed every morning.

Speaker 1:

So you know college when you're out of bed, do rag.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you're okay it's like whatever second class you go back and then you it's showtime. Okay, every morning was showtime for her right, and I didn't even know, she didn't know, and then come to find out. Long story short, um, I didn't need the showtime. She liked the do rag and yeah, she was like you know, right, this is 2000s, it's still like the bad boy image, you know yeah, so this, this, so this was an undergrad thing.

Speaker 4:

But again, like we said, we've been on so many self-discovery journeys that we've realized that we've been on this mission before Right and we'll continue to do this mission, whatever the next calling is at that point.

Speaker 2:

So this is forever. That reminds me of Hitch, not Hitch Hitchcock. Remember the movie with Will Smith where he's like a superhero. Hancock, there you go. I said Hitchcock, I mixed the films, but they kept finding each other, no matter what happened, separated by losing their memory. And all this stuff. You keep saying we keep coming back.

Speaker 3:

This has happened before it's the invisible thread.

Speaker 2:

Oh, never heard of that one yeah.

Speaker 3:

There's always a. There's a, so an invisible thread that has always been between two people, tethering you together, and you will always find you'll find it in your life some at some point that you guys were at the same point in your life. You were somewhere together, but not together, and you could have met somewhere else. Something always brought you guys back together Synchronicity.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

That's it.

Speaker 1:

But we're both speaking of the numerology that you brought up earlier. We're both life path number nine, which is the humanitarian, and we learned that much later in our relationship, but learning that part made it make sense, I know this is why we're both driven from that same desire, which is important. When he was talking about vision, we've been together for 23 years now and it's like I tell everyone thank you.

Speaker 1:

I tell everyone you know who will listen like you have to have a vision for your partnership outside of the love, because what brings you together in that euphoria in the beginning? That is designed for just a specific time. It's not supposed. You're supposed to reiterate that you know and reinvent that as you're together. But it's never going to look the same. If it was the same it would be boring.

Speaker 1:

If you think about it you're constantly supposed to reinvent and you're going to grow as people you know. So it's the, it's the becoming. You know, who he is today is so much better than who he was 23 years ago the same heart. Than who he was 23 years ago the same heart. But this is a new version of this man that I have to learn and accept and appreciate and value. And that's what makes staying together for the long haul worth it, because it's like wow, you know what adventures are next. You know it's been so good, that's beautiful.

Speaker 2:

That's like an amazing way to look at it actually, because I don't think everybody's ready for the change, right? You know it's been so good, that's beautiful. That's like an amazing way to look at it actually, because I don't think everybody's ready for the change, right? You assume, or we have this idea, like I met you this way this is who you're supposed to be and it's like no, but not even you are the same, but this you're supposed to. They're supposed to stay the same, but you.

Speaker 1:

It's so odd.

Speaker 3:

But it's like so people are looking at their relationships and when they're going in the relationship, they go in for that one thing People don't like change, so they don't change themselves. And then they so when the other person is changing, they're like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't sign up for this. And that's when they start breaking Right. So there's a break and then they go to the next one, and it's a break because that change.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not prepared to heal from my traumas. I'm not prepared to even deal with it because I've put it in my brain somewhere where I can't even access it. So you are triggering things that I'm not in tune with. So I don't understand that you are doing this for my benefit so that I can heal, you know. So we met, you know, and said single fathers that was initially could have been a trauma bond. You know both of us have mommy issues. You know what I'm saying? That could have been a trauma bond forever if we were not willing to do the work and grow past that. You know to where we can give our children something other than trauma.

Speaker 2:

How did you do the work?

Speaker 1:

I was just about to ask it was I mean.

Speaker 2:

Who started Like okay.

Speaker 1:

I'm very good at compartmentalizing. You know I'm a Taurus. You know I'm very like, steadfast, loyal. I'm here. But you know it's just very easy for me to emotionally regulate. And then part of our work was like to get him on that page, you know, and now, then it transcends into children.

Speaker 1:

But I will tell you just very transparently that even through all of that work, it wasn't until the pandemic, when we had that time to really sit, that we embarked on some shamanic journeys and we got the actual confirmation, from whatever this natural intelligence gives you, that, oh no, this right here is in the design, it is very much so in the stars. This is what you're supposed to do. You are on track like as clear as day, and once you get like you can't unsee or unhear something of that magnitude.

Speaker 2:

Right right.

Speaker 1:

And the fact that we did it together and we're getting kind of the same message. We were like all right, this is a whole other. We haven't even scratched the surface of what our partnership is supposed to give to the world. That's amazing. So that re-energized us. Yeah, we had a whole new outlook after that.

Speaker 3:

That was like a whole, like it was a beginning. You thought you were in the middle of your relationship and you're like, nope, right back to the beginning.

Speaker 4:

And you got to think because the world was shut down. So it was a pivotal moment, right? So we home full-time mom. I've been working remote since 2010, since my daughter was born, so I've been home. All of it was a home game and we were asking for a break. You know, the kids were asking to just get out of school and everything just worked perfect. Now, asking to just get out of school, and everything just worked perfect.

Speaker 4:

Now, as a businessman, during that time, you could either chill if you're sitting on something or you can find other verticals, because the world did change. So I was watching the markets and just seeing how things are moving. So I was picking up on a lot of changes, but the universe would not allow me to go back into business at that time. So for two years, outside of a real estate deal I had, I was finishing up. I really didn't have anything else going on A little hustle here and there, but for the most part, we spent a better part of that first year just taking these journeys and just getting to know who we are at that point.

Speaker 3:

And by journey. What are we talking?

Speaker 4:

about. That was the magic mushroom, so there's a bunch of different names for it, and that the magic mushroom, so there's a bunch of different names for it and you know that introduced us to a network of people that were bought into our lives. And then you just start to see it really just connects dots at the end of the day. So where you would go through traditional talk therapy, which we've done before, she fired the therapist, yeah, because this leaps you levels.

Speaker 1:

No, this is before that.

Speaker 2:

No, no, before that you were like I'm done.

Speaker 4:

She's just to know her. You'll understand, Right, Right. So she triggered the therapist and his trauma.

Speaker 2:

You sound like my mom and my sister both tourists, by the way, April 24th and April 25th.

Speaker 1:

We just truth-searchers.

Speaker 4:

It's a lot right. It's a bull in a china shop yes and no.

Speaker 1:

No, but I always say you know, but why am I in a china shop?

Speaker 2:

I'm not supposed to I'm a bull, what am I doing? Here, yes, I'm gonna break some stuff up so you understand that, the two women that raised me why I moved the way I moved. There you go strong individuals.

Speaker 4:

You can't move them off and just think about it. When you, you know me being young and just ego driven in my earlier years, like to have someone. When you, you know me being young and just ego-driven in my earlier years, like to have someone just like what you know, you know growing up, dating you never.

Speaker 1:

To have someone hold you accountable.

Speaker 4:

Yes, Consistently Respectfully. Over and over Right, not even on some like throwing out curse words and get you to the point where, okay, now I'm mad Like just you know even where I went right. So tony robbins um, yes, motivator he he was. He was one of the main drivers to the change. She told me everything.

Speaker 4:

He said, but I wasn't her student at that time I'm her boyfriend, you know, and then turns into fiance and now husband. Yes, so I just I just wasn't picking it up, and it's funny full circle, because our kids are hearing probably everything that I heard and then some. So then I got to validate they're resisting too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they will. I'm like you're going to get this game one way or another.

Speaker 2:

At that age it's like what are you talking about when?

Speaker 3:

they get older, they're going to be like my mom's been saying that my mom's been saying this forever my mom. So oh, I've heard this before. Okay, it'll resonate later on. Yeah, it'll definitely come a question because so my oldest, he he loves, he loves the magic and he's he legit has been like trying to get me. He's like mom, you need this. He's like I'm like I've gone into like eagle death. He's like I am, you need that. And I'm like, oh, I'm scared, yeah, what are you scared?

Speaker 3:

of I don't know I, I think that I don't know I, I know that like he's like him and my sister, my sister, is like he needed like microdose, just microdose, and just like. Then, you know, take it from there the one time and I was just in a setting where it was a one and only time, I was in a setting where I was with a, a friend of mine and and a guy she was seeing, and she was like let's, let's do this, and I was like okay, she like chopped it up and and I legit, not even joking put it in my mouth and was like I'm gonna go to the bathroom and I had it like on my side and I went to the bathroom.

Speaker 3:

I was like in the toilet, like I don't want to do this. I don't like this setting Setting mindset, all that stuff, and I just feel like it's not like a recreational thing and I don't think you have to worry about, like, getting addicted.

Speaker 1:

It is work, like if you've been on that ride, you are on that ride, you know what.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying For hours yeah, it could be all through the night. It's work. It's a lot of work on your body, a lot of things coming out Like it's not to be played with. Yeah, it's to be respected. We pray over it before we set our intentions. You set the atmosphere. He and I have realized that it's better for us to be in separate spaces, at least in the beginning. Okay, because we have different, not reactions, but it talks to us differently, right, whereas I'm more. Inside it's quiet, I'm seeing beautiful colors and lights. Inside it's quiet, I'm seeing beautiful colors and lights, and he's like loud and crying and like all of that so there's two different experiences.

Speaker 2:

So like, get the release, especially as a man, it's. Yeah, I hate to use the man but the truth is.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot that we just do. Oh yeah, let me just keep going. Keep going when we know. We know you can talk about it. It's not, you know very well you can talk about it, but it's just like you said you come from.

Speaker 2:

My mother came from Dominican Republic at age 12, so my mother had to be the man of the house for us three. So my mom like we said it last week I told my mom, they told me I love you. So I was like in my late 20, but I don't blame her for it because I know what her job was. She couldn't. She was an entrepreneur. Yeah, she owned her own business. My mom would leave at 5 in the morning and I'd be back till 7 o'clock at night. Right, my older siblings they're 12 and 11 years older than me, so I was pretty much raising myself at this point.

Speaker 2:

So when my mother was in the house, I was like, did you do this, did you do that? I was like, all right, cool, let's just keep it going. So it wasn't like I said, mom, oh man, I had this problem today at school. It's like problem at school. That's all you do in life. You have a problem at school. What's your problem at school? You're not doing what you need to do, so you tend to like. I said you hold it back, like I ain't going to talk about this. I'll figure it.

Speaker 1:

I'd probably be bawling if I did, Probably had decades of stuff coming out of that. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3:

It forces you to deal with things that you put in the back of your mind for so long. Maybe that's what I'm scared of. Maybe that's what I'm like.

Speaker 1:

But once you deal with it, the thing that I find fascinating about the mushrooms is it's coming, because whatever you need to deal with is going to come up, so but it comes up in a way and shifts your perspective so that you can tolerate and like what's the word? Yeah, like you can digest it a little bit more, kind of like if you were, just, if you had a steak on your stomach and your digestive system was not working properly and it's just sitting there and it's festering and it's rotting right, like that then does something to your body. But the mushrooms is like okay, well, yeah, this trauma happened to you. But then it gives you kind of context, it gives a little peek into the grander design, I believe, because mushrooms just in and of itself, just the plant, it's interconnected underground to all life, similar in the way that your brain and nervous system works. So it's like it rewires you to have a different thought or feeling about what happened.

Speaker 2:

The way my friend describes it, because he's speaking of the pandemic. I met up with him literally it was like summer of 2020. And he gave me it was like 3.5 and like little thing, and we were speaking and he's like yo, you're going to love it, make sure you're in a good setting. Put like self-advocate frequencies, you know, I was like, yeah, he's like wait, are you going through anything in life right now? I'm like yeah, man, I'm super depressed bro. He's like yeah, how about not? He's like don't do it right now because you're going to be by yourself. He's like you don't want to. You know some people have different effects. He's like you'll be fine, nothing's going to happen, you're not going to get trapped.

Speaker 2:

Think is similar. He's like what it does is it takes away that separation between mind and heart. Right? He's like so you're able to digest it different, examine what's going on from a place where there's no, you know, mixed emotion. Right, because when your mind is telling you one thing and your heart is saying another, you're always going to have trouble confronting things. He's like it just slices that up and it's all together at once. So now you're going to deal with stuff emotionally, but mentally you'll be able to see oh wait, this is this. Let me connect this. Maybe this is something I need to work on. And he said that's why you have to do it multiple times. It's always going to be something different. It's a growing process.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and it tells you when that calling, when there's a need for it.

Speaker 2:

So you're a businessman? Yep, you're in real estate. You guys got all these things going on. When did you say, all right, the fiat system ain't cutting it.

Speaker 4:

So when the pandemic happened. So, mind you, I went through a cycle in 2008,. The housing crisis we all went through it. Yeah Right, I in 2008,.

Speaker 4:

Right, the housing crisis, we all went through it yeah Right, I was an agent at that time, when you live recession-like every year, you don't know what are good times and bad times. Right, you just check to check. So, even as an entrepreneur, you can be check to check, we are. And sometimes it's even worse. There's weeks where I make $0 an hour. That's where I'm at. I ain't going to lie to you. You can get a 30K month. You know what I'm saying. So there's these ebbs and flows.

Speaker 4:

So in finally having time to sit and heal, I started to see things differently. And then, the first thing of coming out of the pandemic, I started to realize and this was a big, major shift for me because I've always been a money-driven guy but then you look back on it and I'm like, well, that's not creating much impact and things like that. So it doesn't define me, it just gives me things and things are great. But then things come and go. So in 2008, it didn't run us over until probably like 10. So it took time to get to people. So we had to restructure foreclosure, things like that. We're young at the time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we didn't have a foreclosure. Well, we did a short sale Short sale.

Speaker 2:

I went from being a real estate agent to a short sale specialist because I had no choice. Okay, yeah, market movement, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4:

So in going through those, I still wasn't really analyzing how important it was to understand economics Right. So for a culture that loves money, we don't study money, we don't understand it Right, we don't go to school for it. We don't follow the guys who have the money. And I'm not talking about the entertainers, right, we're talking about the people that actually drive the economy, the market. Yeah, right, they pay for the entertainers to entertain us, those type of guys. I've always had an appreciation for wealthy individuals and then when you go into it with ego mindset, then you're going to lead with that and you're only going to see the things that they get and not so much what it took to get there or who they are as a person.

Speaker 1:

Or what value they're providing.

Speaker 4:

Right. So that's another thing right, Most of us are working for employers or systems.

Speaker 4:

So you're basically in somebody's value system and they're telling you listen, I don't care if you have four kids, your job is here, and then you go home there. And if I need you for extra, then you got to give it because you got to make ends meet, right? So, as I'm looking at the whole entire system, I'm like it's just like entire system. I'm like it's just like you wake up. You know, especially coming from a Haitian background, it's always money is the root of all evil.

Speaker 4:

They don't say it like that, but it's said the same way. And you start to see truth in it when you start to not take it out of context a little bit and break it down, right, what's tied to money, what people can do for money, right? So I've always looked at, I've always wanted to help people. So impact is always a thing, right. And in order to fight this fight, you need money, okay, resources, it's a tool. This is the way the system works, and you realize that one, the system's rigged, which you kind of know coming up, oh yeah, black and brown.

Speaker 1:

Right, we don't have access to the source or the information, because we don't create systems Right Historically.

Speaker 2:

We work in them, that's it.

Speaker 3:

We build them. Well, that's what they've taught us and that's what we have always output.

Speaker 4:

Exactly and output Exactly, and on top you know. So now your circle is your circle. So how much are you going to gain from friends and family who have the same mindset? Behind this elephant in the room, yeah, okay.

Speaker 4:

So the very guy that's a serial entrepreneur is now at a point in life where he's like I don't want to do any of this stuff I'm doing, right, real estate, this. I'm like I don't want to do any of the stuff I'm doing, right, real estate, this. I'm like I'm giving myself more jobs and more verticals. So I have a gift and a knack for just creating things. So, as I'm looking at it, I'm analyzing it through, and I have a deep sense of I could feel a lot and I think that's kind of the key. I've played both sides of the fence. So, going to school, I can sit in a boardroom and operate and I can shoot dice on a corner and operate and everything in between. So that's a gift I have. I can look at a product and I can see it for all people in mind, right? So we live in a society now where systems are centralized, male, dominated, white. They don't have a good gauge on the world, right? This is why this thing is burning down.

Speaker 3:

Yes. You know, they think they'll just buy themselves another world and create a Mars, whatever Right, because that's their plan, right.

Speaker 4:

Right, this is kind of in their real world. But what I could respect from what they do is they set up these systems and they have thousand year plans, whether it's destructive or not. Let's just think same system could be set up to fight the opposite of what we're going through now. Right? So now I'm sitting home and I'm like I don't want to do any of this stuff. So, cryptocurrency I was involved in that since 2015 and that was brought to me by a mentor of mine, but he's a peer with the same age we met in college, so he only got that information because he was dealing with high net worth individuals. So, again, the circle you run with determines. You know, your network will determine your net worth. And it sounds cliche, but it's totally true. It's cliche because it's true. Right, absolutely so. My wife she has a saying for the kids and we'll put this on the. She always asks what would the kids remember before? And it's definitely question everything.

Speaker 1:

Except your own intuition. This is all day.

Speaker 4:

Question everything except the old intuition. Right, but you got to understand who you are first Correct or, at that point, the foundation. Whoever's telling you that's what you tend to follow, Especially now we live in information age, where it's in abundance. But if you're not all the way right with yourself, who are you listening to? Who's going to spark that? So, as I'm watching. So now what I did was I'm on the internet. You definitely need social equity. So for people to say, oh, stay off the internet, you need some sort of social equity Meaning you can make your Instagram look like anything that you want. You follow the right people. The right message hits you. Unfollow certain, you know. So my Instagram gives me what I need per day.

Speaker 2:

That's how I I did that during the pandemic, Exactly that I said man, let me start cutting this one off, this one off, I can't. This is like watching the news.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I didn't do a complete cleanse, but I absolutely I cut off family members man.

Speaker 4:

I'm good for that you way too negative, bro, that's not good.

Speaker 2:

Some people just love to attract misery. Yes, right, and that's a choice. Happiness and misery, to me, are both choices. I'm not saying you know, shit doesn't happen. People lose jobs, things are going on. But now you have a decision to make at that point is this gonna sink me or am I gonna figure out a way to flow and go beyond this, right?

Speaker 4:

so and I would get a partner like her, who sees the world the way that she sees it. Cause I'm like what? How do you get this out of that in my head, right?

Speaker 1:

so you guys, I guys are optimists. You know, my glass is always three quarters full, you know.

Speaker 2:

At least I always say my glass is spilling. Yeah, because I have like in my circle, like my closest cousins, one of them. His thing is always empty. The other one is half full, yeah. The other one just doesn't care what's in it and I'm like my spilling over man. Right, that's awesome. There's always a better day ahead. Right Forward is the only way I can't sit there. And as much as I go through it obviously we're human beings but even when I'm going through it, there's that voice in my head like it'll be all right, you survived before God got you. You're going to get through this.

Speaker 3:

I say that same thing to myself all the time, same thing to myself all the time, that people are always like coming from the economic background that we all come from, where we didn't have anything and I always wanted more. Yep, I've always had a mindset of, and I've always taken this with me god got me me. No matter what it is, no matter how I feel, no matter what the situation is, god got me yeah, we still have to take action.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no, 100%, because I always say prayer without action.

Speaker 3:

You're not going anywhere Because you can pray all day, but nothing's going to come to you when you're staying on your knees and you're not walking. So I completely. You got to knees and you're not walking right.

Speaker 3:

So I completely knock some doors yes, you absolutely maybe not, but I mean yes oh, her mom's jehovah's witness, oh no that's a big one, yes, so, coming from that type of background where I did take a lot, of, a lot of the beliefs that my mom instilled in us because of, because of that and a lot of the things that they, that they think or that they follow and they teach, actually make a lot of sense, right, it's just in their, in their way and how it's not all for you.

Speaker 3:

It's just it's not for me. It is, it's just not for me, and that's okay. Love my mother to death. We we, you know just came into a relationship together where we are um plant moms and I yeah, and like now, that's a show, do you want to see my plants?

Speaker 3:

and I'm the same way. I was, like you know, going, I went to like a nursery and I was like FaceTime, I'm like you gotta see this. And that took a lot because I had so much built up resentment. Then I had a conversation with her, which was it was designed the way it was with her, which was it was designed the way it was me defending one of my siblings and telling her again being an advocate and telling her hey, um, so my, if my sister feels this way, I want you to have this conversation with her. Please open up your heart and and just listen. Um, and then it was a conversation I'm going to pause again Really emotional, but it was a conversation between me and my mom that was so healing Because to me, with my dad, he was not the best and my parents have been married for over 40 years, and it was just where I had resentment towards my mom, where I had resentment towards my mom it was a conversation.

Speaker 3:

It was a conversation between me and my mom, where in that conversation she was like I had to deal with him too and it kind of like as an adult you're like oh, shoot.

Speaker 3:

There's layers too, there's so many layers that you don't think about, and so that Especially being in relationships now, right being in relationships now where you're kind of like yeah, my kids don't see or understand what I deal with, and me, as her child, I don't see or didn't see what I deal with and me as her child I don't see I or didn't see what she dealt with. So the resentment was coming from a place of not understanding. And so now is where I understand and so we connect on a different level. But yeah, I forgot where I was going with that. So, door knocking.

Speaker 1:

But the time that it takes just naturally for you to grow, to become a parent say yourself to be able to for that wisdom to start to seep in. Even that's the beauty of the parent-child relationship of like okay, one day you'll understand. And then there's an opportunity.

Speaker 1:

If we haven't burned this thing to the ground of like, not connecting with each other, that we will then be able to have something right that's beautiful and meaningful and we'll be able to understand, but, like, just hold tight in the years where these children's brains are not developed and we're taking things personally, where it's like they don't have you know, like this prefrontal cortex is really like important and that thing's not developed until about 25. So just think about all that you, you know, all the energy you're giving to your parent up to that point of the resistance of like just the you don't know and I know, and that back and forth, you know.

Speaker 2:

I think of myself a lot whenever I'm like going through anything with panella. Be my oldest, she's only eight, but she is like levels ahead. Right, girls go quicker. So it's like there's times where I let certain things get to me.

Speaker 1:

I'm like wait a second, you were an asshole when you were like and this girl's your spitting image, it's okay so and that, that, and acknowledging that that's how it would work. Right, you would get a child that will test your gangster like nobody else you know.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, she's my girl, yeah, like 100%.

Speaker 2:

it's the she looks like me, talks to me, asking me jokes like me, even like the weird dark humor for like an eight-year-old like she says stuff sometimes where my brother-in-law like so, they weren't Dominican Republic, they had it out there before us like a couple of weeks back and he just sends me laughing my ass off. I'm like what's up, bro. He's like yo, penelope, is you bro. She said such and such. It was like a joke that nobody else got. So he was laughing and saying why is she making these adult jokes? And he's like you Right, so, and I see it myself. So it's. That's what helped me actually seeing the similarities be like wait a second, what was I doing at this age? How was I thinking? What did I make my mom go through at this?

Speaker 1:

time. But that's the beautiful thing that all of this is evolution on a mass scale, so like we're all going through the same things, feeling like it's just us when we're in the moment.

Speaker 1:

but all of this is mass evolution. So our generation is the first generation that has the luxury of healing. Our parents and our parents' parents. It was all survival. So we have this opportunity now we have the language wrapped around it. This is our time to basically shift the trajectory of humanity. Humanity. So you start to be able to understand, now that we have the luxury of healing, like, oh, you're doing this to reflect back to me something that I'm supposed to learn from an involved past. You know, my daughter's a Taurus, just like me, and he always says like she is you. If your voice had not been silenced, she's who you would have been, because you allow her the stage?

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, we allow her to have her voice and you know, yes, it must be respectful and we're working on that, you know all the time. But there's no.

Speaker 3:

You know, be seen and not heard and that was a huge thing, and that's something that I always, always do with my kids. I cannot stand when the other parent is like, oh, I can't stand their attitude and yes, but can we please step back and understand why they have the attitude? Can we just listen to, why this is happening? And I know you don't like it, because no one likes disrespect and I am not condoning it by any means However, can we understand why and where this is coming? Because if we don't understand that and we're not giving them the space?

Speaker 3:

I didn't defend myself until I was an adult. I went through my childhood and my early adult years not defending myself, because it was always be seen, not heard, and all of the above. Yes, and you know, I always had to like, I was play small, yes, hiding, trying not to do this. I got good at lying, so good at lying, so good at lying, so good at manipulation, because I didn't have another choice and I had to find my way around things. It wasn't safe to be just who you are, no, and now that I'm unapologetically myself and still sometimes I have to kind of like, I think about things and I'm like, oh, I'm not going to say that that's not going to. You know it's not going to land, well, that's not going to.

Speaker 3:

You know age, well you know people are going to come back and be like, oh, you remember when you said that. So those are things that where my thought process it still goes there and keeps me there sometimes. I still am working on that daily and I'm like I have to tell myself what I tell other people. Who cares who?

Speaker 1:

cares, and just to get to a point where you can just trust yourself. Yes, Just trust yourself, Like who cares if it? You know, like you said, who cares if it doesn't age? Well, Well, maybe it's not supposed to, because this is how I felt then and the context of why I felt that way was different. Then Things change, you know, I don't understand why. You know, we Well society does that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, they hold people to that tweet they made in 2007. Oh, and that brings me home when he was 18 years old. Yeah, and, and join him.

Speaker 3:

So I was like and and they'll they like cancel culture. I hate, cancel culture and where some sometimes it's needed, because obviously I will never read. I will not uncancel R Kelly, but I mean that's me.

Speaker 2:

I still listen to his music.

Speaker 3:

Okay, we're different and I've deleted everything, but I'm just saying like I hate cancel culture, because in that time this person was going through something and they said and did things that right now they don't believe in anymore, and so they'll believe your past always. They will always believe your past, but they're not looking at your present and they don't believe your present because of what you left behind, yeah, and we're not.

Speaker 2:

Let's make this clear. We're not excusing, like child trafficking or some kind of crazy shit, hold on. But in terms of thought patterns, that's what I mean, right, like thinking a certain way, like I didn't grow up with white people, like I didn't, it wasn't until I got to college, okay, and so to me, I had this whole perception we're didn't. It wasn't until I got to college, okay, and so to me, I had this whole perception we're from East New York, brooklyn, we grew up together, like so, even though the white kids there weren't really white, and all three of them right, so it was. When I got to college. It was such a new experience for me, yeah, and I was somewhat racist, if I think about it, towards white people, like I had this whole idea in my head. You know, my niece tells me you can't be racist towards white people, you can only be prejudiced, yeah, or biased.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. You're not creating a system to keep them from thriving.

Speaker 2:

But I was prejudiced towards them, right, and I was like you know what. I met some cool ones. Yeah, I hate putting them in the box, man, I hate saying these type of things.

Speaker 1:

Put us in a.

Speaker 2:

Box. Yeah, you know what Cool I feel liberated now. Box them up, box them up, box them up. But I met them and it was like all right, cool. My perception is different, but again it's because experience. So if I would have said something wild at 16, now at 22, my perception is different, just like my perception now at 40 is very different, because now I went through other things in life where we start learning about the system, learning how the Rockefellers are behind the schooling system, and all these things start to come playing Like damn for real. Why nobody told me this? Like what's going on?

Speaker 3:

TikTok told me that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but even history now is starting to be-. I'm serious, yeah, we're starting to uncover new stuff about history that you know. Some of these books are made up. You're like, nah, no way, but we learned this in school. Why would they teach us this in school? We know why. Now, oh, I can talk about that. Because they control the money.

Speaker 1:

It's a story, right? So if you tell a good enough story and you can make people believe it, you control their behavior. And if you control the language, you know it's a psychology play. What the people understood, who who had this massive amount of generational wealth. They understand psychology of human behavior.

Speaker 2:

That's really what it's about yeah, that thousand year plan you're talking about, that's real right. Like there are books from like the 1700s that speak about things that have taken place in the 1900s into 2000s. So when you think about how all that is set up and that's why I see, when you got into the crypto world, the decentralization of things is where, okay, I can, I can create my own economy. One of the best things about Sky and when I was doing the class, was you guys create your own virtual world, and I remember I had my, my Oculus. Like this is crazy, and it was in its infancy, right, I don't know where it's at now, by the way, I'm joining sky in again just because, just so you know, um, and it was. I was like damn, it opened up new things in my mind. It opened new ways of thinking.

Speaker 2:

The again the first session. When we talk about numerology, you know, uh, how meta and all these different companies release certain things in alignment with retrograde, in alignment with, like full moons, in alignment with whatever's happening in the universe. It's not by mistake. They know your buying habits, they know when you're not going to purchase, they know when not to sell you things. What opened your mind up to that stuff, though, so thank you for watching part one. Part two is coming up next.